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sudharak,
u said about leaving choice of langauge to an individual. what choice do we give to majority of people? can they afford to have a choice? ... so as to be on the so called path of socio economic progress. tar, leaving choice of langauge/medium to people is very much fake term in itself for most junta.
though even for that matter, we hardly experience somebody being socially or economically progressed just because he/she went to a english speaking school and somebody is not because he/she didn't.
at the same time, now-a-days we do experience most of the people who can, choose english school over marathi. i do not beleive it is only for the self economic progress. keev ashyasaathi karavishi vaatte ki, it is mostly for some 'psuedo' socio reasons though. or in other words, for our society it is a upper class thing. we think, will be succesful and superior just by going to english medium schools!
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I Agree, Infact choosing medium is not by virtue of choice but its by economic status (at least in India) . going to an english medium school is still a costly affair and not everyone can afford it. BUT it doesn't restrict him/her from the path of progress. Otherwise there wouldn't be any "Mangesh Mhaskar" here who came from a socio-economic backward ground but still could achieve something which many can't even though they go to english medium schools.
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Again and again these mad producers are tricked into producing such vernacular stuff. Years back there was such an effort to dub Jungle Book into Marathi and progressive families rightly rejected that. That effort failed miserably as expected. I don't understand why are you trying to turn back the hands of the clock?
Progress oriented families want to expose their children to English more and more and such foolish efforts ...
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I am sure; progress minded families and wise people would not waste their time to read such stuff and are sure to ignore it as silently as ever
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Aaplya sudaiwane athwa durdaiwane aapan uchchashikshanasathi ingraji bhasha niwaDlee. Durdaiw yasathi ki samajatil mothya bhagala, jo aadhipasun ingrajee chya samparkaat navhtaa tyaala, uchchashikshanachi ek bhiti basli aani to warga uchchashikshanache arthik laabh titkya pramanat uthavu shakla nahi. sudaiwa yasathi ki jaagatik baajarpethet aaplya tantradnyanna ingraji uttam prakare yet aslyane changla bhaw milala, aani tyamulech aapli mule baajaarat changlya bhawala wikli jaaweet ya aashene ajun kahi lokanni aapli mule ingraji madhyamat shikaayla taakli.
aata yethparyant sarwa theek aahe ki pahilya iyattepasun gaNit aaNi shastrasarkhe wishay ingrajitun shikaNe ekweL manya aahe, paN mhaNun itihaas, bhugol ya sarkhe wishay ingrajeetun shiknyamage ugichach ingrajicha tora athwa badejaaw aani maratheechee laaj yapeksha wegLe kahi kaaran aahe kaay? aaNi maraThee bhasha aichchhik kinwa dwitiya/trutiya thewnyamaagcha saamaajik uddesh anakalneey aahe. aaplya gharatach aaplya aaila molkaraNeechee wagNuk denyasarkhech he nahi ka? aaNi yaacha ek toTaa mhaNje marathi madhye je kahi samrydhdha sahityabhaNDaar aahe tyapasun ha warg wanchit rahto. MataThee madhyamaat shiklela widyarthee jyane ingrajeecha dwitiya bhasha mhanun abhyas kela aahe aani marathisobat ingrajeechehi jaaNiwpurwak waachan kele aahe to nakkich dnyanane aaNi anubhawane kuwatine tyachyaitakyach aslelya pan fakt ingrajee madhyamaatun shikalelya widyrthyapeksha saras TharNaar.
tyamule ugichach ingrajicha badejaaw mirawnyapeksha, ekadaa samatol Dokyane saaraasaar wichaar karun he jyanetyane Tharwayche aahe ki ingraji hi ek aawashyak parakeey bhasha mhanun abhyasaaychiy ki aaplya matrubhashela padabhrashta karun tichi jaga ingrajeela dyaayachi?
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Sada Fool wrote:
>what choice do we give to majority of people?
>can they afford to have a choice?
I do not wish to stretch argument just for the sake of argument. Still, your point is self-defeating. See, as you rightly pointed out, education in English medium is not affordable. Still there is an increasing trend towards it. That, in a way, proves that, in the heart of heart, people are convinced about the benefits of education in English medium. It is a good thing that people who could not afford it, say, "I could not afford it. Let my child have it, though."
If it were affordable, there would be far more forceful trend.
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Sudharak
I guess, you are doing what they call as 'Deceptive Aruguments'. People are going for English medium not because they know how helpful it is but it has now become a social trend and indian society has always been under social pressures to do certain things the way rest of the society does. This has become more a 'Follow the Mass' kind of trend and just becaue they get a feeling (god knows why and how) that if they don't go for english medium, they will be left out of the (Rat) race. Similarly, many examples can be sighted, that people follow the current trend in the society just for heck of it without knowing what is best suited for them.
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mag zakki bua, maaymaraatheechya mulannech jar maraatheela door lotle tar dusre kuni jawal karNaar aahe ka?
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Vaatsaru wrote:
>.....This has
>become more a 'Follow the Mass' kind of trend and just becaue they get a
>feeling (god knows why and how) that if they don't go for english medium,
>they will be left out of the (Rat) race.
When you speak in English, in a group, you stand out from others and make a striking impression on the listeners. People immediately know that you are well educated and you come from a good family with good manners and etiquettes. They get a clear idea of your status, and thus you command respect from them.
Thus, when people, who wish to see their children accepted and respected by the society in this manner, send their children to English medium schools, how do you say that they do it as a matter of blind rat race?
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konihi maanya karel ki jovar aaplya saamaajachi manovrutti ashi ingragila 'anavashyak' bhaav denaari ahe tovar aaplya bhashela taranopaay, bhavishya vagire kahi nahi. yavar upaay? mahit nahi :( pan maza spashta mat ahe, samajachi vicharsarni he shevati rajyakartyanchya dhornaavarach avalambun asate. samaja jar suruvatipasunach shikshanaache maadhyam ek asael, shakyato maatrubhasha ani aavashyak tithech parakiy bhasha, tar mulaanmadhe lahanpanapasunach hi ji kahi samajik dari, kahinmadhe mothepannachi bhavana ani kahinmadhe maagaslepanacha nunaganda nirman hoto; kiman te tari taalta yeil. sarvannach vikasachi samaan sandhi he nusati ghoshana karnyaat kaay artha? ani mukhya mhanaje hya yoge thodyafaar pramanaat ka hoina bhasha, samnskruti yavishayi aavad (jya vayat nirmaan karaychi tya vayat) nirmaan hoil.
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Sudharak
First of all, let me try and remove your conviction that when you speak in English, you stand out of the crowd and you get respect. This is utterly wrong. It depends a lot on in which group you are standing. If you are standing among the illiterate, village people, and talk English in front of them, of course they will look at you with respect. (Chances are, though, they will consider you an 'Alien' as well..) but if you start speaking in English in a group of Maharashtriyan college going students, they will not pay any special respect to you just because you are speaking in English.
What is most important to earn respect is your skill and values and not the language you speak in. And this is very wrong notion that you can earn respect just because you know one particular language.
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> And this is very wrong notion that you can
> earn respect just because you know one
> particular language.
ekdam barobar waaTsaru.
3 saalanpurvi aamchya college madhye warshik snehasammelan hota, da ma miraasdaar pramukh pahune hote, kaaryakramaat tyanni 2 marathi katha sangitlya. Binmarathi lok suddha manaapasun daad det hote. aani karyakram samplyaawar te mhaTle, "Karyakram agdeech chhan zala, pan karyakramacha sutrasanchalan jar marathit zale aste tar ajunach chhaan waaTle aste" ya wakyawar kameet kamee 2 miniTe Taalya padat hotya. sampurNa kaaryakrambhar marathit bolalela to manus kiti "long lasting impression" Taakun gela he sangnyachi garajach nahi.
Aani ha karyakram kuNa vernacular collegat nahi tar COEP saarkhya eka naamwant abhiyantriki collegat zala hota.
Tumche wichar impression Taaktaat, bhasha navhe...
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zakki ....sahi...
khup divasanni fe fe udne ha vakprachar aikala...ani dhanya zalo. kharach, kaay masta bhasha ahe.
baki yogi, tuzya shankecha nirasan ajun zalach nahi asa disatay...:)
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Zakki,
You say, you did something, and later you did not have to repent on your choice. Okay you were fortunate, may be. However please let me know whether it was a choice made with this thinking or this is an afterthought or post revelation?
You have put your points very attractively no doubt. But just look behind you and find out how many people are ready to accept you as a role model, (as a choice, at the time of making a choice, or before making a choice. ...not as a post justification of the act already done in the past).
Very few if not zero.
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sudharak,
You ALWAYS base your judgement on how many followers does your concept have.
Consider this, in USA, growing number of people are doing drugs. More and more drugs are coming from Latin America and because of lenient treatment, more people are doing it. Movies, rock stars, lack of family values, lack of family ties, lack of religion/ethics is helping this.
In short, more and more people are following this dangerous path. Does that make this path progressive? One must carefully evaluate the effects of this trend before jumping to the conclusion that it's good.
In your case also, just because too many people are choosing not to learn Marathi, thereby eroding Marathi language and culture is in itself not a good thing.
The reasons could be many. To site a few examples,
couples with one parent non Marathi, people on the move, people with a complex or fear that their kids will be left behind etc.
Not all these people really thing that learning Marathi or learning in Marathi is a useless exercise.
Other than "too many people are doing it" do you have any reason to believe that learning and imbibing Marathi language is futile?
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Bhm wrote:
>In short, more and more people are following this dangerous path. Does that make this
>path progressive?
If it is dangerous. How it can be progressive then?
>One must carefully evaluate the effects of this trend before jumping to the conclusion
>that it's good.
Yes true. In the case of English medium schooling, people do have done this evaluation in their heart of heart. They have 'seen' clear advantages in following that path. Do you have any counter evidence? Consult your good friends, nears and dears, loved ones, well-wishers and relatives, who 'have' chosen English medium schooling for their children.
>Not all these people really thing that learning Marathi or learning in Marathi is a useless
> exercise.
May be not. But they have seen advantage in English medium schooling, for whatever reason. It did solve their respective problems. Right? At least there is no 'disadvantage' in English medium, so additionally learning vernacular language does not have any additional advantage.
>Other than "too many people are doing it" do you have any reason to believe that
>learning and imbibing Marathi language is futile?
Wait a minute. Uselessness of vernacular medium and usefulness of English medium is the reason. Rising trend towards English medium is the effect.
So, at least do you agree explicitly that there 'is' a rising trend towards learning in English medium and not concentrating on vernacular as more and more people find vernacular medium useless for the socio economic progress.
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I guess, the difference of opinion is not whether such trend exists; but whether it is towards progress.
In earlier days, clothes were woven on handlooms. These were taken over by textile mills with powerlooms. We see almost everybody wearing these. Does that mean, handloom is useless? Not at all, it is very exclusive & expensive; out of reach of common people.
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>If it is dangerous. How it can be progressive
>then?
To an outsider it's a dangerous trend. Those who do drugs think it's a cool thing to do.
Please note the difference. The long term effects of this bad trend are not obvious to
those who blindly follow the mad rush.
>May be not. But they have seen advantage in
>English medium schooling, for whatever reason.
>It did solve their respective problems. Right?
Not so fast buddy.
Many of them consciously tried so that their kids read Marathi books, watched Marathi programs and
in general kept their Marathi alive and properly brushed. Do not assume that by enrolling their
kids in an English Medium School they have stopped their kids from learning Marathi. Many of them
actually encourage their kids to learn, speak and develop Marathi. And that's because they see
an advantage. They see that their kids understand and relate to Marathi culture better when they
know the language. I know many many friends who studied in English medium, but speak perfect Marathi
and do not feel ashamed of doing so. They also enjoy Marathi music, Marathi literature. Not without a conscious effort and a good reason for
taking that effort.
>At least there is no 'disadvantage' in English
>medium, so additionally learning vernacular
>language does not have any additional advantage.
Says you! What about being part of Marathi culture? Marathi language is an important integral part
of Marathi culture. Without the language there is a serious handicap in understanding the culture
and being a part of it.
Try to understand this basic fact and you will see the "advantage" of learning Marathi.
The culture has enriched the language and the language has enriched the culture. It's a simple
symbiosis found everywhere.
>Wait a minute. Uselessness of vernacular medium
>and usefulness of English medium is the reason.
The so-called uselessness of Marathi and all the other vernacular languages is not yet established.
Just because you say so is not good enough. Once again the language is an integral part of the
culture. If you don't know the language you won't understand many of the customs, many of the
festivals, history, music, literature and people. I think this is a serious downside
of abandoning Marathi. Let me know if you think otherwise and why if you do.
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malaa ksalao role model krtaÆ %yaavaoLI jasao vaaTlao tsao kolaoÊ %yaamaagao progressive, regressive Asalao kahI ivacaar navhto. jasao engineering laa jaayacao zrlao kI gaiNatÊ Xaas~ yaa ivaYayaat jaast laxa GaalatÜÊ tsao ka^laojaÊ ]cca iXaxaNa krayacao zrlao Asaola trÊ [Mga`jaI iXakNao AavaXyak AahoÊ ho kLlao mhNaUna kolao. %yaat naXaIba mhNajaoÊ maÜz\yaa laÜkaMnaI jarI p`%yaxa madt ikMvaa farsao p`Ü%saahna idlao naahI trI AaDkaiz na@kIca AaNalaI naahI. hoca %yaaMcao ]pkar. malaa p`Xna Aaho kI Aajakalacao sarkar ina Aa vaDIla Aaplyaa maulaaMnaa maUK- samajatat kayaÆ AhÜÊ maulao pNa XahaNaI Asatat. %yaaMnaa kLto kI AapNa marazI iXaklaÜÊ ina marazI saMsËutI p`maaNao vaagalaÜÊ trI vaoL yaotaca [Mga`jaIÊ jama-naÊ AXyaa BaaYaa ina saava-jainak izkaiNa vaagaNyaa pur%yaa [tr caailairtIih iXakta yaotIla. AhÜ Aaja tumhI [Mga`jaIÊ Amaoirkna kolaoÊ ina maulaalaa pihilaca maÜzI saMQaI japana maQao AalaI tr magaÆ iXakolaca naa tÜ japanaI caailairtI ina BaaYaa lavakrcaÆ
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XaaLa ina ka^laoja maQao f> ivacaar ksaa krayacaaÊ p`Xna ksao saÜDvaayacao yaacao iXaxaNa Asato. XaaLot jaI gaiNato saÜDvalaI tIca ka baahor naÜkrI krtanaa kraiva lagatatÆ ka^laojaat jao programs ilaihlao toca ka naÜkrIt ilahavao laagatatÆ naahI. itqao dusaroca p`Xna saÜDvaavao laagatat. pNa problem definition, required knowledge, direction of thinking, possible solutions, their advantages & disadvantages, and selection of solution AXyaa yaÜgya pwtInao p`Xna saÜDvaNyacaI tyaarI XaaLa ka^laoja maQao hÜto.
maga p`Xna program ilaihNyaacaa AsaÜ vaa [traMXaI vyavahar krNyaacaa AsaÜ.
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Zakki aaNi BHM,
malaa waTte tumhi prashnawar shewaTcha ghaaw ghaatla aahe....
anybody for 'Japani ase aamuchi maayaboli'?????
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zakki, atishay barobar ahe tumche mhanane. farach surekh ani satya lihile ahet. shevati pratyekjan hushar ahech. jenva pahije tenva vegveglya chaliriti, bhasha shikelach tya tya thikani pudhe jayche asel tar.
tumchya bhashyavar mi 2 min talya vajavlya ho..:)
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Bhm wrote:
> The so-called uselessness of Marathi and all the other vernacular languages is not yet established.
You are right again. Even with most honest intentions and sincere efforts, no progress happens overnight in a revolutionary manner. The progress and upward movement has to evolve. Upward thinkers have failed in bringing about such a sudden change and had to face fierce ridicule on one hand and rotten and sarcastic comments from cynic language fanatics, on the other. Thus the culture is evolving step by step. Our grand parents had no alternative to using vernacular languages even with best of intentions. They slowly introduced one word at time. Our parents carried the batten forward and day-by-day they successfully adopted new words, new phrases, new expressions which soon replaced old orthodox vernacular substitutes. Fortunately they understood the importance of English and kept the flame burning. They started sending their children (i.e. our generation) to English medium schools. As days and years go by this flow of cultural upliftment and improvement is gaining more and more momentum.
> Once again the language is an integral part of the culture.
> If you don't know the language you won't understand many of the customs, many of the
> festivals, history, music, literature and people. I think this is a serious downside
> of abandoning Marathi.
The things you have listed here are not really virtues of vernacular languages but are in fact the limitations. There is hardly anything beyond this even if one cares about such things. As I have mentioned above, this is a period (and a very long and important period, mind you) during which, progress minded has to keep a sound balance between the advanced culture and the vernacular one. There is some limited usefulness of vernacular languages, which one should recognize and should not abandon suddenly. However it is important that people take efforts to express such culture specific things in English, and in vernacular for some duration, so that there is no sudden resistance, from so called language and culture lovers. Even though one adopts such changes slowly, there are some non-compromising fanatics and zealots who love to impart impedance to such progress. Example has come above as the article in Loksatta. http://www.loksatta.com/daily/20010820/lokviv1.htm
Upward thinkers should expect such nuisance from them and should avoid the slightest temptation to enter into direct face-to-face confrontation with them. They should be assured that the society at large is in fact with them and wants such change to be irreversible.
I shall love to offer to other reformers, tips and guidelines which I have gathered throughout my painful experience in intentional cultural transition.
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savyasaacaI fo fo ]DalaI cyaa eovajaI
Fyaa Fyaa ]DalaI Asao mhTlyaavar tr AaNaKIca maJaa yaotÜ naahI Æ
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Firstly, I am getting an impression that your definition of progressive is circular.
Who is progressive?
People who have denounced Marathi.
Why are these people progressive?
Because they have denounced Marathi.
Not very convincing if you ask me!
What is the core thing that is bad about Marathi language according to you? Why do you hate it so much?
You think that if a language is an important part of a culture, it's a limitation.
In what way is it a limitation?
If I use English just as a professional skill and occassionally to enrich my experience by
reading English books, using other media in English, but still use Marathi extensively at
home and with my relatives, friends, should I be branded as backward? Why?
Don't you think variety of cultures and languages enrich the world? I do. I can't see a good
reason for disowning Marathi.
>There is hardly anything beyond this even if one cares about such things.
The above comment pertains to the festivals, history, music and folklore, I assume.
Can you tell me why are these things unnecessary? Do you think culture is such a dispensible entity?
Can you so easily plug another culture in place of the old one and hope that it would work?
First of all, do you have a culture in mind? Or do you want everyone to be a robot devoid of such
feelings?
Once again, why denouncing one's language and replacing it with another amounts to progress
according to you? You can reap all the financial benefits by using language like English
just for professional work and still keep your culture alive.
I see your attempt to bankrupt one's culture and then hope to adapt a new one absolutely ridiculous.
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are ran ajun petlelech ahe ka??
hmm..
chalu de chalu de.....
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he vacha:
http://www.esakal.com/20020111/mumbai5.html
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Here is one more language love fanatic crying after many days:
http://maharashtratimes.indiatimes.com/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=8485906
Funny thing is, he himself has agreed that progressive people abandon vernacular language as fast as possible. In my opinion, they should not abandon it altogether but should keep it preserved. So that occasionaly they can use that language whereever appropriate. (e.g talking with old close relatives like grand parents and also with people on the street like vegetable vendors and bus conductors.)
When they do it that way, they will not attract such a silly cry from such fanatics.
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Satishbv
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ek Cana lao#a
jaya maharaYT/
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Sudharak: Thanks for the link ! Its a great article. 
people abandon vernacular language as fast as possible. In my opinion, they should not abandon it altogether but should keep it preserved>>>>>> Aqaa-tca maaJaM mat (acyaa AgadI ]laT Aaho. %yaa laÜkaMnaI [Mga`jaI hI BaaYaa raKIva sadrat zovaavaI.
A%yaavaXyak Asaola itqaoca vaapravaI. AsaÜ.
Satich: kharach chaan aahe lekh !
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pk, .
paN tula ek sanskrut subhAShit sAngate, 'yatra durdAra: waktAr: tatra maunam hi shobhate!' su. sA. na.
satish, kharech chhAn lekh!
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| व्यक्तिपासून वल्लीपर्यंत |
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| पांढर्यावरचे काळे |
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| गावातल्या गावात |
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| तंत्रलेल्या मंत्रबनात |
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| आरोह अवरोह |
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| शुभंकरोती कल्याणम् |
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| विखुरलेले मोती |
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