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Ekjan
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 6:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Phaar purvi srimant lok, raje vagere daan dharma karit(gayi/gure/paise),pan alikade
Ekunach aplya samaajaat garju lokanna madat karavi mhanun kahi pratha disat nahit. Savashna brahmna bolavun jevan denyapeksha, anathashramaat / garibbanna jevan ghalne kinva ekhadya garju mula mulila shaleche sahitya vikat gheun dene , ekhdya vrudhhsramtsathi daan karne ase koni kartana
pharse disat nahi, Ekikade devalala daan dharma ani ekikade junya kapdyan sathi unhataanatun yenaarya boharnishi ghasaghis!
Kinva garib bhaji valyashi kahi paishansathi
vaad!!
Dusryala madat karnarya pratha aplyakade nahitch ka?


Zakki
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 7:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Baartat madt koMd`o ina %yaa d\vaaro garjaUMnaa madt hI gaÜYT krNyaat ek lahana ADcaNa Aaho. saaQaarNapNao Asao eKado koMd` ]GaDayacao mhNajao itqao drrÜja kama krNaarI maaNasao paihjaotÊ %yaaMcaa pgaar va Kca- va incidental expenses jyaalaa baahorcao laÜk laacaÊ pOsao KaNao Asao mhNatatÊ to jaast Aaho. ina tI madt yaÜgya karNaI vaaprlyaa jaašla yaacaI kuNaalaa Ka~I vaaTt naahI. baáyaaca laÜkaMcyaa mato BaUkMp ga`staMsaazI pazvalaolaI madtÊ saavarkraMcyaa isanaomaasaazI pazvalaolao pOsao [. barocasao vaayaa gaolao. toMvha ho kaya- vaOyai>k rI%yaaca krta Aalao tr baro.
AaiNa XaMkracyaa ipMDIvar pMcaamaRt AÜtNyaapoxaaÊ to jamaa k$na caaMgalyaa Avasqaot gaavaatIla garjaUMnaa doNao jaast caaMgalao. yaoqaIla ek jaNa dr vaYaI- Baartatlyaa lahana KoD\yaat jaa}na pÙasa saaz jaNaaMnaa caaMgalao jaovaNa dotat.

Ekjan
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 7:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Ithe USA madhe goodwill centers chi kalpana kiti changli ahe.Barobar ahe zakki tumche asha mothyya pramanaavr madat avgahd asel.

Pan vaiktik patli var suddha ya goshti hotana disat phaarasha nahit.
Ithe christmas la amchya company madhun
homeless lokansathi kiti madat dili geli hoti.food baskest vagere nelya hotya.
Apan kadhi Diwalila/dasryala tase karto ka?

Apan phataake udavato ani pradushanaat bhar galto.

Keya
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 7:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

aamchya mulicha janma jhalyavar aamhi mothe pramanat barase kinwa partee karayache talale. tya aivaji gharatle lok, ithali javalchee mitramandalee yanchya upashtit chotasa karyakram kela. te paise AID (association of India Development) la dile. hi sanstha ithech sthapan jhalya mule va ya sansthet kahi javalche lok kam karat aslyamule sansthechya khare panache khatri hoti. tasech tichya pahilya vadha divasala motha hall na gheta, pharasa show na karata gharich sajara kela (and she enjoyed that more!!). Te paise bharatat gelyavar Punyatalya anath ashramala dile. Pratyaksha tithe gelya mule aashramache kaam hi kalale. Je lok ha aashram chalavtat tyanchi olakh hi jhali. He doghe navara bayako mahanagarpaliket jhaduvale aahet. tyani 32 anath mule sambhali aahet! tyancha pagar Rs.5000 aahe jo sarva ya mulanchya jevanavar kharch hoto. Aso, shivay maajhya sasu sasryana mulisathi karyakram karaych hota, Hall vagaire gheun, tyanchi samjut ghalun tyatle thode paise ashach garaju mulana dile. Shivay mee asha mulanchya shodhat aahe, jyanche shikshan paisha vachun adale aahe. Dar mahinyala tharavik rakkam upalabdha karun deun tyanche shiksha adu dyayache nahi asa prayatna aahe. May madhye bharatat janar aahe tevha he kam karun yaaycha vichar aahe. Shivay aamhi ithali mitra mandali dar mahinyala tharavik rakkam gola karun bharatatlya garaju lokana deto.

Yogibear
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 7:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Keya: atishay chaan upakraam haati ghetla aahes :o)

Deerghabee
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 8:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

keya, aapalyakade asha sansthanche patte asateel tar ethe post kar please.

Keya
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 8:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Thanks Yogi,
He sarva mee ithe mandale karan jastit jast lokani asa upakram karava ase vatate. Punyatlya tya anath ashramachla ajun swathachi jaga ghenyasathi Rs.80,000 have aahet. Aamhi te ubhe karaycha prayatna karat aahot. Lok $10 pasun paise detat. Ya madhye aamachi barich mitramandali samil aahet. May madhye bharatat jau tevha te paise tyana denyacha vichar aahe. Aamcha phar motha group nahi, pan jamel tase samajache run phedhaycha prayatna karat aahe.

Yogibear
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 8:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Keya: jaar aapalyaala shakya asel ter tya baddal jashta mahiti dyaa waa tasech if u dont mind can u be volunteer to collect that money if any hitguj kar wants to help....

Keya
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 8:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Yogi,
I will be really happy to do that. Udyach mi sarva mahiti post karte. Tithe gele hote tevha Sakal, times of India ya madhye aalele lekh aanle aahet, tehi post karate. Ajun ek mhanaje, he sarva Mukta Puntambekar(Anil Avachatanchi mulagi va Mugtangan Vyasan Mukti kendrachi sanchalika) yanchya upasthitit jhale. I will give her email address, so you can check on this matter if you want.

Ekjan
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 8:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Keya , pharach chaan.Apan apla address kinva e-mail id profile madhe taku shakaal ka?

Milindaa
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 8:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

ekjan, tumhi keya chya profile var click kelat tar tithe tila message pathavanyacha option aahe. so, no need for email id.

Keya
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 8:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

ppl,
Udya sarva mahiti pathavate. I tried to add my email in the profile but did not see the place for that. I will try that again this evening.

Keya
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 8:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Thanks Milinda,
That solves my problem!

Milindaa
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 9:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Vishayantarabaddal sorry.

Keya, tula email jar add karayachach asel tar aata u can add a new category of your choice in the profile. u can add email if needed. just FYI. no need for thanks.

Storvi
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 9:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Keya well said. Mazahi kevha pasun lokanna samjavnyacha prayatna challay, ki nuste mothya partya denyapeksha, chote sammelan kara, ani urlele paise daan kara... pun mazya anubhavatle sagle mug lokanna vaeet watta, hi tumchi navya pidhichi thera ahet, kinva asle kahitari boltat.. doka fodun ghyaychi pali aliye..
vichar karnyasarkhi goshta ahe, ki jevha tumhi party's madhe dekhava karta tevha churus suru hote, ani mug kityek velela parwadat nastanna kharcha kela jato. Ata khara tar lagna-karyat karj kadhun kharcha karnyachi kahi garaj ahe ka? pun mhantat na, old habbits die hard:-(

Shrini
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 9:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Storvi,
maagacyaa ipZItIla laÜkaMnaa ha saamaaijak d`uYTIkÜna Ôarsaa navhta. %yaamauLo jar %yaaMnaI %yaaMcyaa kayaa-t ‘xa’ laa baÜlaavalao Asaola tr ‘xa’ nao pNa %yaaMnaa baÜlavaavao AXaI to Apoxaa krNaar AaiNa naahI baÜlaavalao tr duKavalao jaaNaar... %yaamauLo yaa sauQaarNaa na@kI hÜtIlaÊ pNa hLUhLU.

Storvi
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 9:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

I know I know.... Kusumagraj mhantat swatahla manoman patnarya vicharanchahi bandikhana hota kama naye... pun mug he lok swatahchya vicharanchya pinjryat shatakanushataka jagat astat, navin vicharanche kiranahi tyat yeu det nahit? swatahun swatahasathi pinjra karun tyat rahnyachi hi pravrutti apun kadhi door sarnar?

Shrini
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 9:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Keya,
malaa doKIla madt krayalaa AavaDola.
%yaamauLo tU tI maahItI [qao idlaIsa tr Kroca baro hܚla.

Shrini
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 9:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

It's still too time consuming to write in Devnagari! :-(

One of the main aspects of any celebration is getting all your relatives, friends (that you care about) together, exchanging updates and generally enjoying their company. It's also obvious that the more the close friends
you have the more the # people attending. So
spending a certain amount of money in such celebrations is inevitable...

anyway, how about this : instead of asking people not to bring any presents, request them to present you with cash, and donate all such cash gifted, to some charity work.
This might be a temporary solution till people become more conscious of their surroundings.

Storvi
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

no there is another problem associated with gifts(cash or otherwise) It is that you are expected to bring a gift. then there is a comparison, as to who gave how much, although you may donate it to a charity, those who bring gifts, will want you to bring them gifts of atleast equal value, it's a vicious circle. When someone can't afford it, but feels obliged to bring a gift where does that leave us? Gift giving should be a matter of love, not of obligation

Yogibear
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

storvi: unfortunately we cannot control that part of giving gifts....Isnt it!!!

Arch
Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

ho ksa vaaTtÆ

samaarMBaat Agar party maQyao gifts saazI ek poTI zovaayacaI. jyaaMnaa gifts Vayacyaa Aahot %yaaMnaI %yaa poTIt pOsao Takayacao. jyaaMnaa hva Asaola %yaaMnaI paikTavar naava GaalaUna pOsao Takavaot. jyaaMnaa naava nakÜ Asaola %yaaMnaI naava GalaU nayao paikTavar. AaiNa gift AaNalaI paihjao AsahI hÜNaar naahI. ho doNaGaoNa eoicCk Asaola AaiNa ikitÊ kuNaI Asaa p`XNahI yaoNaar naahI.

Rasikyash
Friday, April 19, 2002 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


[qao KrÜKr Ôarca Cana ivaYaya discuss kolyaa jaatÜ Aaho. Arch tuJaa ha BB Krca Ôar punyaašcaa zrtÜ Aaho. Thx!

malaa doKIla gift ha p`kar AjaIbaat AavaDt naahI. %yaapoxaa gaÜrgairbaaÙa madt kolaolao konvhahI caaMgalao.

Keya maI doKIla maaJyaa AyaptIp`maaNao madt krayalaa tyaar Aaho. jar baroca ihtgaujakr madt krayalaa tyaar AsatIla tr maga AapNa ek vaogaLa BB ]GaDU XaktÜ jaoNao kÉna sagaL\yaaMcao laxa vaoQalyaa jaa] Xakona. Keya tuca tÜ BB open kr jar tulaa maaJaI hI klpNaa AavaDlaI Asaola tr.


Keya
Friday, April 19, 2002 - 2:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Thanks guys,
I will open a new BB this weekend. I have got some photos too, of that Anath Ashram when I went to India I will post those too.
Arch, we did the same thing. When we went to India, since our daughter went there for the first time, people wanted to give her lot of gifts and dresses but we requested them not give any gifts instead they can donate that money to some organization. But still some people won't litsen. We requested then to give cash and And with that money we opened one bank account for our kaamvali's son.
Aapan $15-20 ithe kasehi kharch karto. But that $$ amount makes a big difference back in India.
Samajache he run maanya karun tyachi jamel tashi parat phed karayla mi Pu. La. va Sunitabainkadun shikale. Anyway ya vishayavar vegala BB open karun tithe sagali mahiti post karen.
Thanks for your response again.

Psg
Friday, April 19, 2002 - 4:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

vishayala dharun ajun ek...mumbait dahunu jawal khedyamadhe Balshikshanacha upakram hati ghenyat ala ahe. adiwasi mulanchya shikshanasathi shala ahe. tithe fakta Rs. 750/- madhe eka mulacha purna varshacha shikshan hota. ase paise apan deu shakto. paise dile ki pavti ani jya mulala aplyatarfe he shikshan dile janar ahe tya mulacha photo suddha pathavtat! maze vadil ya Balshikshan trust che trustee ahet tyamule ya upakramachi satyata mala mahit ahe!!

pratha: lagnamadhe akshata mhanun jo kahi tandool vaya ghalawla jato, hi pratha band karne sahaj shakya ahe. 2-4 kilo tandoolacha ha purnapane satyanash ahe ase mala vatte!!

Rasikyash
Friday, April 19, 2002 - 9:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

:0)

kaya caalalaya hoÊ [qao ekek jana p`qaa baMd paDnyaacyaa maagaa-var laagalao Aahot.

psg: maaJa lagna v(ayaca Aaho ro AjaunaÊ tI AxadocaI p`qaa tÜvar jara caalaU rahU do²


Zakki
Friday, April 19, 2002 - 1:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

[qao KalaIla ilaMk doNao AavaXyak vaaTto. Aamacyaa ipZIcyaa laÜkaMnaI hI saMsqaa sau$ kolaI AahoÊ AxarXaÁ laaKÜ Da^lasa- maharaYT/tIla Anaok saMsqaaMnaa idlao Aahot. %yaacaI ja$r maaihtI vaacaa. Aata kahI laÜkaMkDo [tko BarpUr pOsao Jaalao Aahot kI baD\yaa baD\yaa paT\yaa- do}nahI to ittkoca tÜlaamaÜlaacao dana do} XaktatÊ tr AapNa kÜNa mhNaNar maÜzI paTI- k$ naka²
http://www.indiancharity.org/

Swati2
Friday, April 19, 2002 - 1:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

zakki tumache mhanane barobar ahe pan barechda mothi party dyavi ashi apeksha vyakta keli jate. mulanche,lagnache vaaddivas agadi ekhadya mini marriage sarakhe sajare karavet ashi apeksha keli jate. mazya in-lawschi 50 vi marriage anniversary asha prakare sajari karavi ashi apeksha keli geli. amhi kothrudchya andhashalela donation dile. Ghari javalachya relatives bolavale hote. ya baddal nantar khup naraji vyakt zali. so called prathancha hach problem asato.
Khare tar apalya kahi pratha phar chagalya ahet. Purvi garibanna gul ani gahu ase daan kele jayache. Mala athavate mazya ajobanchya 75 vya vadhadivasanimitta tynni gavatil garibanna tyancya vajana itaka gul vatala hota.



Keya
Friday, April 19, 2002 - 3:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Zakki,
Motya partya deun hi denagya deu shakanare lok astil pan te denagya detat ka? Det astil tar changli gosht aahe.
Poonam, If you can give more info about that school, I will tell this to our group and we will try to give some help.

Zakki
Friday, April 19, 2002 - 3:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

svaatIÊ koyaaÊ paT\yaa-Mcao p`maaNa saM#yaonao ina qaaTmaaTanao vaaZlaolao Aaho ho Kro Aaho. pNa tumhI varIla ilaMk baGaa. laÜk pOsao dotat hÜ. %yaamaQao ek Aaho. ‘danat’ hI AMgaI AsaavaI laagato. kahI laÜk Asaoca samajatat kI malaa 100 Da^ imaLalao tr maI 10 Da^ dana krInaÊ 100Ê000 imaLalao tr %yaacaohI dha T@ko došna. yaa ]laT baroca laÜk dana yaa Baavanaocyaa iva$w AsatatÊ %yaaMcyaa mato %yaaMcao dana kupa~I hܚlaÊ vagaOro vagaOro. %yaaca p`maaNao kahI laÜk vaga-NaI gaÜLa k$ laagalao kI %yaaMcyaat evhZa ]%saah saMcaartÜ kI maI p`%yaokakDUna jaastIt jaast pOsao Gao[naÊ ina maga dDpNa AaNaNaoÊ tulanaa krNao Asao caalaU hÜto. tohI vaašT. (a ikMvaa [tr Anaok gaÜYTI ho laÜkmaanasa jaagaRt k$na yaÜgya ivacaar %yaaMcyaa manaavar zsavalao trca hÜtIla.

Storvi
Friday, April 19, 2002 - 4:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

zakki Keya mhante te barobar ahe, mothya partya dene he jyanchi eipat ahe tyanchya sathi thik asta ho, pun hota kaay, ki itar lokanna tashich party dyavishi watte, ani mug ti detana aipat na baghta kharcha hotat. amchi party saglyat chan hoti asa lokanni mhanava yasathi mansa kaay-kaay kartat, he me sangayla nako

Keya
Friday, April 19, 2002 - 4:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Zakki,
Maharashtra Foundation baddal aamchya groupla purvich mahiti hoti. Punyatlya tya ashrama baddal mi je sangat hote, tyanchyasathi MF kadun denagi milavanyacha prayatna kela hota. Pan denagi milu shakli nahi. MF chya kahi rules madhye ya Ashramala denagi dene basat nhavate. Shevati aamhi 7 kutumbe ekatra yeun nidan tyana swatahchi jaga tari gheun dyayachi ase tharavale. Kahi paise(Rs.60,000) suprasidha marathi/hindi abhinete Sadashiv Amrapurkar yani dile. Uralele(80,000) aamhi jamavayche tharavale. Ya madhye sarva swathahun samil jhale. kuthalahi dadpanacha bhag nhavata va tulanahi nhavati. Pratyekane aplya ichenusar paise dile. jya lokana ya baddal kalale tyani aapan houn madat karaychi tharavale. aamhi jaun paise magitale nahit.
Dan kupatri hoil hi shanka yene yogyach aahe. infact aamhalahi aalich hoti. mhanun aamhi Muktashi (Mukta Puntambekar, Anil Awachatanchi mulagi) sampark sadhala va tichyakadun ya aashramachi mahiti milali.
Aso. Tumhi mhanata te kharech danat hi angi asavi lagate.

Tush
Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 7:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Ja@kI Ê tumacaM mhNaNaM KrM AahoÊ barocada laÜkM dana krNyaacyaa eovajaI faTo fÜDt basatat.

maaJaa AnauBava saaMgatÜ. maI gaolyaa 3 / 4 vaYaa-MpasaUna CRY laa vaga-NaI dotÜ. ek Aasaama maQalaa maulagaa d<ak Gaotlaa Aaho. AaNaI AgadI nominal amount Asato. vaYaa-laa 600 Épyao f>. mhNajao maihnaa 50 Ê idvasaalaa idD dÜna Épyao ² pNa jaovha maI maaJyaa kahI ima~aMnaa ho saaMigatlaM tovha " kXyaava$na tuJao pOsao %yaa maulaalaa imaLtat Æ maQaoca kÜNaI Kat nasatIla (acaI guarantee kayaÆ etc " baroca p`Xna samaÜr Aalao. maga malaa ekda %yaaMcyaakDUna %yaa maulaacaa fÜTÜ Aalaa Ê trI pNa (a laÜkaMcaM samaaQaana naahIca. " tÜ fÜTÜ %yaaca maulaacaa kXyaava$na Asaola Æ "
Aata AXyaa laÜkaMnaa kaya saaMgaNaar Æ

malaa vaaTtMya kI maI major ivaYayaaMtr kolaMya ² sorry

Yogibear
Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 1:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Tush: pun Isnt that one of the faults in our society, jithe bhrastaachaarach jashta pramanaat aahe tevha sahajikach tashi shankaa yene raasta aahe....

Ekjan
Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 7:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Tush , agdi tuzya pramanech mazi case ahe. Mi hi eka american organization tarfe eka bhartiya mulasathi paise pathvate, pan satat hi shanka manaat rahte ki apan je paise pathvato te tya mulala miltat ka? Ty mulache photo , patre yet astat tari pan....

Yala upay asa sapdala ki bhartat gelya var vastu rupe madat dyaychi, jase anathashramamadhe jaun mulanna changle jevan dene, kinva vrudhaashramamadhe TV dene, garib mulala shalecha ganvesh/sahitya kharedi karun dene, ekhadya library madhe basayla bake dene vagere. Pan apan jevha bhartat jato tevha ha sagla prapanch karne kami kalavadhi mule shakya hoilch ase nahi.....ty mule apan aplyakadun shakya te karayche tyat samadhan manayche..ajun kay.



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