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Lalu
Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 2:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Aajaca hI baatmaI vaacalaI. yaa ba_la jaast maaihtI kuzo imaLolaÆ mhNajao doXaancaI naavao AaiNa kQaIpasaUna process sauÉ hÜNaar vagaOro..
[qao p`itiËyaahI ilaihta yaotIla.

Samirm75
Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 3:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

ho batami vachali aani khup aanand hi zala.. mhanaje aata baki che zanzat nako.. pan kadhi pasun lagun honar aahe ha prashanach aahe.. lagech ka 1khadya varshane? konate hi desh asale tari US nakki asanar.. tya mule kaLaji nahi..

Vinaydesai
Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 6:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

US,UK na@kIca AsaNaar. pNa kayada pasa vhayalaa AaiNa [qapya-Mt Order pÜhÜcaayalaa 6 maihnao jaatIla. maagao PIO kaD-caI ikmmat kmaI kolyaacaI GaÜYaNaa jaUnamaQyao JaalaolaI AaiNa Indian Consulate NY laa ho naivana kaD- imaLayalaa November ]jaaDlaa. tovha mao jaUna pya-Mt hܚla.

Storvi
Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 7:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

US UK Canada ahet, pan mazya mahiti pramane he NRI's sathi nasun PIO sathi ahe

Lalu
Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 8:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

hÜÊ pNa [qalao Aaplao laÜk jao US cao citizen Jaalaot to PIO ca naaÆ

Bhm
Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 9:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

http://www.rediff.com/money/2003/jan/08pbd1.htm

duhorI naagairk%va galfmaQao kama krNaaáyaa BaartIyaaMnaa psaMt naahI. %yaaMcyaa mato AitrokI (acaa fayada GaotIla.

bahuQaa galfvaalyaaMnaa ArbaI doXaacao naagairk%va imaLt naahI AaiNa %yaamauLo duhorI naagairk%vaacaa p`Xnaca yaot naahI Asao Asalyaanao to Asao mhNat Asaavaot.
tsao tr ksalaolao gaunhogaar Baartacaa pasapÜT-hI imaLvatat. %yaamauLo pasapÜT- doNao qaaMbavaayacao ka ?


Mahaguru
Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

detail news on this issue:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/printedition/pdf/100103.pdf

(see in 'But on Limited Basis' box)

Lalu
Friday, January 10, 2003 - 2:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Thanks Bhm and Mahaguru. That was useful.

Upashiboka
Friday, January 10, 2003 - 2:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

duhorI naagairk%vaacaa Asaa kaya maÜza Ôayada hÜNaar Aaho to malaa kLt naahI. kÜNaI saangaola kaÆ Ôar tr voting krta yao[la. naahI tr Baartat nausatoca rhayacao tr PIO kaD- Aahoca kI.

Alternately, why do you want to give up Indian citizenship in the first place?

Mahaguru
Friday, January 10, 2003 - 4:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Also it is applicable to only people from UK,USA,CAN,NZ,AUS and SGP

Ashishp
Friday, January 10, 2003 - 4:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Alternately, why do you want to give up Indian citizenship in the first place? >> Upashiboka, that's exactly dual citizenship would do.. you won't need to sacrifice Indian citizenship in order to become citizen of other country which you might need to get certain additional benefits (especially for u'r kids)



Bhm
Friday, January 10, 2003 - 4:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


f> AmaoirkotIla [MglaMDatIla AaiNa Anya qaÜD\yaa doXaatIla laÜkaMsaazI (acao karNa
%yaa doXaat BaartIya KUp Aahot.
to itqalao naagairk hÜ} Xaktat.
to bahutaMXa EaImaMt Asatat.

duhorI naagairk%vaacaa fayada ha kI jar kahI ]VÜga vagaOro sau$ krNyaasaazI eKaValaa vaYa-Bar Baartat rhavao laagalao tr %yaacao Amaoirkocao naagairk%va Asalyaanao Amaoirkot prt jaayalaa ADcaNa naahI. yaa ]laT jar f> ga`Ina kaD- Asaola tr ivaiXaYT kaLanao Amaoirkot prt jaayacao baMQana Aaho.
Baartat matdana krta yaot Asaola tr tohI caaMgalaoca hÜ[la.
Aaplyaa kMbarDo maÜDlaolyaa Aqa-vyavasqaokDo baGata Aata pOsaovaalyaaMcyaa hatat doXaacyaa naaD\yaa jaaNaar ho ]GaD Aaho. maga NRI %yaat Aalao tr kaya ibaGaDlao ?


Upashiboka
Friday, January 10, 2003 - 6:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

you won't need to sacrifice Indian citizenship..>> If you have taken other country's citizenship (say American citizenship for Social Security, Medicare benefits), why do you need Indian citizenship? Isn't PIO card enough?

Lalu
Friday, January 10, 2003 - 6:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

ek Ôayada mhNajao visa naahI laagaNaar Baartat jaayalaa. pNa matdana krta yaoNaar naahIca. PIO kaD- Asalao tr visa laagatÜ kI naahI malaa maaiht naahI.

Storvi
Friday, January 10, 2003 - 6:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

VISA is not the only adv. BHM ni sangitlya pramane, vyavasayat fayda hoil. With Dual citizenship, investment in India will be much more easier. You will be able to live and work in India like an Indian citizen, w/o having to give up the other country's citizenship. It's not really dual citizenship, it's more like a GC except it won't have a limitation of how long you can stay in India in order to retain it. And yes, I don't think one will have voting rights.

Bhm
Friday, January 10, 2003 - 6:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


Asao baGaa kI Anaok BaartIya laÜk Anaok vaYao- ga`Ina kaD-var rhat Aahot. pr@yaa doXaacao naagairk%va kXaalaa AXaa Baavanaonao. Aata duhorI naagairk%va Aalyaavar ho laÜk trI dÜnhI doXaacao naagairk%va svaIka$ XaktIla. AaiNa mau>pNao dÜnhI doXaat vaava$ XaktIla.
Amaoirkocao naagairk banaNao mhNajao BaartIya naagairk%vaavar paNaI saÜDNao hI jaI pUvaI-caI Baavanaa hÜtI tI Aata rhaNaar naahI.
AaiNa maaJyaamato (a gaTat maaJyaasaarKo Anaok laÜk Aahot.


Vinaydesai
Friday, January 10, 2003 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

lalu PIO card mhNajaoca VISA AiQak kahI savalatI. Dual Citizenship mhNajao PIO card caM puZ\caM pa}la. DC Gaotlyaanao AapNa Bartalaa prko JaalaÜ AahÜt hI Baavanaa rhNaar naahI. [tr kahI fayado Ahotca pNa American Citizenship Gaotlyaanantr AapNa doXaalaa prko JaalaÜ yaacao duK jaast Asato.

Weldoda
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 3:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

duhorI naagairk%va hvaoca kXaalaaÆÆ

Lalu
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 5:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

weldoda laoK vaacalaa. ha AjaUna ek laoK. dusarI baajaU saangaNaara.
http://maharashtratimes.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?artid=34197423

Keya
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 5:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

maI kotkraMcyaa mataXaI mauLIca sahmat naahI. Baajap var TIka krtanaa kotkraMnaa bahutaMXaI AinavaasaI BaartIyaaMnaa duKvat AahÜt yaacaohI Baana rahIlaolao naahI. to jao mhNatat to kahI laÜkaMbaabat Kro AsaU Xakola pNa sarsakT sava- AinavaasaI BaartIyaaMba_la Asao baÜlaNao pTt naahI. AamhI sauKasauKIÊ Aamacaa doXa saÜDUna [qao rhat naahI. iktIhI sauK saÜyaI AsalyaaÊ iktIhI ‘Da^lasa-’ Asalao trI AapNa [qao duyyama AahÜt hI Baavanaa jaat naahI. AaiNa AamhI Baartat prt yaayacaa p`ya%na krtÜ tovha Baartat Aamacao svaagat ksao hÜtoÆ saurvaat ksTmsa pasaUna kÉyaat. Baartat jaayacao mhTlao kI Aaš vaiDla Baa} baihNaIMnaa BaoTayacyaa AÜZI barÜbarca yaoto to TonXana. [imaga`oXanacao AiQakarI jaNaU AapNa ek maÜza gaunha k$na yaot AahÜt Asao vaagat Asatat. baahorcyaa doXaat tumhI iktIhI maÜzo AsaaÊ [qao eka gaunhogaarap`maaNao vagavalao jaato. kaÆ itqaUna sauTlaÜ kI ksT\msacao AiQakarI Aaplao AjaUna Apmaana krayalaa basalaolao Asatat. saaQyaa ismathasyaanao hÜNyaaáyaa ‘tumacyaa maayadoXaat tumacao svaagat Asaܒ yaa vaa@yaalaa mahaga AahÜt. baahor AašvaiDlaÊ kQaI kQaI vaRQd AajaIAajaÜbaa vaaT phat Asatat. yaa AiQakaáyaaMnaa %yaacao kayaÆ
[tkoca kXaalaaÊ vaa^iXaMgTna iD.saI. cyaa ka^nsaulaoT maQalaa AnauBavahI na ivasarta yaoNyaajaÜgaa Aaho. AitXaya maajaÜrDo laÜk itqao kama krtat.
AamhI Baartat prtayacaa p`ya%na kolaa hÜta. %yaacaI pUva-tyaarI mhNaUna baÐkocao vyaavasaaiyak Kato ]GaDayalaa gaolaÜ hÜtÜ. XabdXaÁ gaunhogaarasaarKo vaagavaNyaat Aalao. ho Kato ka ]GaDayacao yaasaazI pÜlaIsaaMcyaa QatI-var caÝkXaI kolaI. itqalyaa eka krkunaanao tucC kTaxa TakUna ‘baDo Aato hO’ Asao mhTlyaacaohI eoklao. kovaL AamhI ena.Aar.Aaya hÜtÜ mhNaUna hI vaagaNaUkÆ Asao baroca ikssao Aahot. Baartat sauKsaÜyaI naahIt mhNaUna AamhI itqao prt jaat naahI ho saaf KÜTo Aaho. vayaacaI janmaapasaunacaI 22 23 vaYao- Baartat Gaalavalyaavar 5 to 6 vaYaa-t maaNaUsacyaa savayaIt farsaa badla hÜt naahI. itqalao iXaxaNahI caaMgalao Aaho. AamhI naahI iXaklaÜ itqaoÆ
Aaš vaiDlaaMcaoÊ saasaUsaasaáyaaMcao AajaarÊ Aa^proXansa [tr duKNaIÊ GaratlaI sagaLI maMgala kayao-Ê lagnaÊ mauMjaÊ sagaLI p`omaacaI maaNasao va mau#ya mhNajao ‘h@kacaaÊ svataÁca doXa’ ho sagaLo saÜDUna kovaL Da^larcyaa maÜhanao AamhI prdoXaat rahNyaa [tko svaaqaI- AahÜt Asao kotkraMnaa mhNaayacao Aaho kaÆ imaLalao Aamhalaa duhorI naagarIk%va mhNaUna kotkraMcyaa pÜTat ka duKavaoÆ


Bhm
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 5:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


maTa AaiNa laÜksa<acao saMpadk ho samaajavaadI ( mhNaUna ihMdu%vad\vaoYTo ) Aahot ho %yaaMcyaa inayaimat maaMDlyaa jaaNaaáyaa ivacaarava$na kLto.
samaajavaadacaa pÜkL DÜlaara kÜsaLUna gaolaa (acao (a laÜkaMnaa Baana naahI. naoh$caI BaabaDI svaPnao ]raXaI baaLgaUna ihMdu%vaacaa AaMQaLa d\vaoYa krNao , EaImaMtaMnaa tucC %yaajya maanaNao hI (aMcaI vaOiXaYT\yao. Aqaa-t baáyaacaXaa ]ccapdsqa samaajavaaVaMcaI pÜrobaaLo Amaoirkot vaa Anya prdoXaat sauKat rhat Aahot ho namaUd kolao paihjao !

NRI laÜkaMnaI Baaratacyaa saD@yaa yaM~Naot rahUna hlaaKIt iKtpt kaZavaot AXaI (aMcaI Apoxaa AsaavaI. laÜkXaahI AaiNa Qama-inarpoxatocyaa naavaaKalaI jaatIya AlpsaM#yaaMkaMcao laaMgaUlacaalana krNaaro doXaacyaa p`gatIt kuzlaohI svaarsya nasaNaaro naoto (a doXaat yaot Aahot AaiNa trIhI ]ccaiXaixataMnaI Baartatca rhavao ha Aaga`h ibanaDÜkpNaacaa Aaho. kja-maafI , fukT vaIja , AiQakaiQak AarxaNao , laÜkaMnaa Aip`ya hÜtIla Asao kuzlaohI badla na krNao AsalaI AvalaxaNao sarkarI Ka%yaat vaaZtca caalalaI Aahot. AXaa pirisqatIt jyaaMnaa Xa@ya Aaho to greener pastures XaÜQaNaarca.

duhorI naagairk%vaanao Baartacyaa itjaÜrIvar na@kI ksaa baÜjaa pDNaar Aaho ? ]laT Baart sarkar Ba@kma fI Aaka$naca duhorI naagairk%vaacaa naarL laÜkaMcyaa pdrat GaalaNaar Aaho (acaI Ka~I Aaho. NRI cyaa kma Assala " kmaaštlaI " AsalaI trI hI imaLktca Aaho.

AgadI NRI prko Asao mhTlao trI (a inaima<aanao %yaaMcyaa pOXaacaI gauMtvaNaUk Baartat hÜNyaacaI Xa@yata Aaho AaiNa ho vaašT ksao Asaola ? [t@yaa malTI na^Xanala kMpnyaa yaot Aahot tr NRI ka nakÜ ?

malaa vaaTto duhorI naagairkaMnaa yaqaavakaXa mataiQakarhI idlao jaatIla AaiNa ho laÜk bahutaMXa Baajaplaa mato dotIla hI BaItI (a laÜkaMnaa Asao ilahayalaa Baaga paDt AsaavaI.



Weldoda
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 6:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

laalau laoK vaacalaa.
prdoXaat Apmaana JaalaaÊtucC vaagaNauk imaLalaI mhNauna prt maayaBauimat yao}na [qalyaa pirisqatIXaI jauLvauna Gao}naÊAaplaI ba^irisTrI baajaulaa zo}na pMcaa naosaNaaro tumacyaa laoKatlao gaaMQaI kuzo AaNaI Aaplyaalaa kuzoca maana dot naahItÊsagaLIkDo bacabacapurI JaalaI Aaho Asao mhNauna naak maurDaNaarI janata kuzo. AhÜ ek Abja laÜk [qao gauNyaa gaÜvaMVanao rahtatca kI²²jyaa laÜkaMnaI prdoXaatlyaa JaoMD\yaa KalaI ]Baorahuna %yaa doXaacyaa saava-BaÝmatacaIÊnaagair>vaacaI Xapqa GaotlaI %yaaMnaa BaartIya naagair>va maagaNyaacaa naOitk AiQakarca tÜ kayaÆ.jyaa doXaat AapNa janmalaÜÊjyaa doXaacyaa saImaocao rxaNa Aaplao vaIr javaana inaQaD\yaa CatInaoÊksailahI tmaa na baaLgata krtatÊ jyaa doXaat Aaplao sagao saÜyaro AahotÊnaatovaašk Aahot %yaa doXaacao AaQaI naagairk%va saÜDayacaoca kXaalaaÆÆ Aaplyaa vayai>k karNaaMmauLoca naaÆmaga ha svaaqaI-pNaa naahI tr Ajauna kaya AahoÆÆÆ yaa svaaqaI- pNaalaa BaivaYya - kiryar Asaa maulaamaa idlaa kI Jaalao..
AapNaasa duyyama vaagaNauk imaLola ho maahItI Asauna sauwa saarasaar ivacaar kÉAnca svaocConao %yaa doXaacao naagarIk mhNauna rahtatca naaÆ maga prt nostalgic hÜ}na punha BaartIya%vaacao puLko yao}na kahIhI Jaalao trI AamhI BaartIyaca AahÜt Asao naËaxau ZaLayacaoca kXaalaaÆÆ
kuzo gaaMQaI...AaNaI kuzo.....

Prafull
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 6:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

duhorI naagairk%va ha sarL sarL ek vyavahar Aaho. sarkarlaa US dollars BaartamaQao Kocaayacao Aahot AaiNa %yaacyaa badlyaat NRI naa Baartat yaoNao AaiNa invest krNao saÜyaIskr hÜNaar Aaho.
tr AXaa duhorI naagairk%vaamauLo Baartacao kaya nauksaana hÜ} Xakto to maa~ malaa kLt naahI. NRIs cyaa vaOyai>k p`gatIcaa AaiNa duhorI naagairk%vaacaa kahI ek saMbanQa naahI. %yaabaabatIt NRIs cao kQaI ADlao navhto ADNaar hI naahI.
KoDogaava saÜDUna jao laÜk maumbašlaa gaolao %yaatlao iktI laÜk prt gaavaI AalaoÆ
maga AXaa laÜkancaI Avaholanaa krayacaI kI %yaanaa KoDogaavaacyaa p`gatIt saiËya sahBaaga krNyaasaazI p`va`u<a krayacaoÆ
(a p`Xnaacao jao ]<ar Aaho toca " duhorI naagairk%vaasaazI " laagaU hܚla.


Lalu
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 6:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

I agree with Prafull. Dual citizenship mauLo visa laagaNaar naahI AaiNa Baartat iktIhI idvasa rahta yao[la yaa po@Xaa jaast maaJaa trI saQyaa hÜNaar naahI. weldoda %yaa laoKatlao Israel cao ]dahrNa vaacalaosa kaÆ XaovaTUna dusara paragraph . Aaja Amaoirkonao Israel caI baajaU GaoNyaacao krna %yaa laÜkancaI yaa doXaatlaI laa^baI jabaabadar Aaho. to [qalao naagarIk Aahotca kI² [qao sarsakT sagaL\yaa prdoXaI laÜkanaa duyyama vagaNaUk imaLto ho caukIcao Aaho. jagaat kuzohI kuzlyaahI karNaanao duyyama vaagaNaUk imaLU Xakto. BaartatsauQQaa ­ jaatÊ Qama-Ê pOsaa yaa va$na.
yaa bb var Baartat rahNaaro AaiNa Bartabaahor rahNaaro AapaplaI baajaU maanDt Aahot Asao idsato.

Weldoda
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 7:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

KoDogaava saÜDuna Xahra kDo Qaava GaoNaarI pÜTaqaI- janata AaNaI doXaacyaa naagair>vaavar paNaI saÜDNaarI pÜTaqaI- janata yaat Ôrk Aaho. prdoXaat jaa}na rahuna pOsao kmavauna Baartat pazivaNao samajau XaktÜ pNa %yaasaazI svadoXaacao naagair>va saÜDayacao AaNaI maga %yaaca ‘saD@yaa yaM~Naot’ÊgarIbaItÊbacabacapurItÊGaaNaItÊgaunhogaarIt punha naagair>va ka AaNaI ksao isvakaravaosao vaaTtoÆÆ
israel caI baajau GaoNyaat %yaaMcaI lobby Amaoirkosa Baaga paDto ho mhNaNao cauk Aaho.maga Amaoirka pakistan laa ka pazIXaI GaalatoÆÆÆyaat Amaoirkocao [tr kahI vayai>k ihtsaMbaQa Aahot.


Shrini
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 7:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

AaiNa ]Va samajaa Baart pak yauw Jaalao tr US cao naagairk%va AsaNaaáyaa iWnaagarIk dosaIMnaI kaya krayacao Æ

Bhm
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 7:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


doXaacao naagairk%va saÜDNao ho mahapap ka mhNaUna samajaayacao ? Aaja Baartat kahI krayacao Asaola tr naotopd hvao ikMvaa pOXaacaI baajaU Ba@kma hvaI. naotopdasaazI kuzlyaatrI p`isaw GaraNyaat janma hvaa ikMvaa dilat mauislama ikmaana Anya maagaasa vagaa-t janma hvaa.
(apOkI pOsao imaLvaNao jaast saÜpo Aaho AaiNa prdoXaat tr AaNaKInaca. %yaamauLo jar kuNaItrI banaayacao Asaola tr ha maaga- caÜKaLlaolaa kaya vaašT ?
tsaohI gaaMQaIcao naava saaMgaNaaro doXaalaa ivakayalaaca inaGaalaot. %yaamauLo doXa saÜDNaaáyaaMnaa iXavyaa doNyaapUvaI- jao naoto AXaI pirisqatI inamaa-Na krt Aahot %yaaMnaa caar Xabd saaMgaa kI rava !


saD@yaa yaM~Naokirta laÜk Baartat prt jaat naahIyaot. itqao %yaaMcao naatovaašk Aahot. itqalyaa saMsaÌtIXaI %yaaMcao naato Aaho mhNaUna to caalalao Aahot. saDkI yaM~Naa Aaho mhNaUna naahI tr saDkI yaM~Naa Aaho trIhI. (Not because of but in spite of)

]Va Baart pakcao yauw Jaalao tr BaartIyaaMnaI AaplaI baajaU maaMDavaI. rajakarNyaaMnaa doNagyaa Vavyaat AaiNa AaplaI baajaU Baa@kma krayacaa p`ya%na kravaa. tsaohI pak ivarÜQaI vaatavarNa Amaoirkot inamaa-Na hÜtoca Aaho. AhÜ Aaplaa Aaplaa mhTlaa gaolaolaa laÜkinayau> p`itinaQaI maullaa yaadva hahI ]GaD paklaa paizMbaa VayacaI BaaYaa krtÜca kI. Anaok qaÜr qaÜr naoto da}d AaiNa Ainasa saar#yaa maha%myaaMnaa pasapÜT- imaLavaa mhNaUna JaTtatca kI. %vha doXaat rahUna sava- laÜk doXaBa>Icyaa mahana vrtacaa AvalaMba krtat Asao naahI.


Arch
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 7:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

jaoMvha kÜNaI dusaáyaa doXaacaI citizenship Gaot %yaat svaaqa- AsatÜca. nasatÜ mhNaUna ksa caalaolaÆ karNa kahIhI AsaU XaktIla. naatovaaškaMsaazI green card imaLvaNao. social security imaLvaNao. ikMvaa federal jobs imaLvaNao. AaiNa jaoMvha duhorI naagairk%va hva Asat to I want my cake and eat it too Asaca nasat kaÆ

Keya
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 7:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Bhm,
I agree with you.
Weldoda,
mee bharatat bajbajpuri aahe mhanun naak muradat naahee. koni mala bharatat maan dyaava ashi apekshahi karat naahi.
aamhi paristitishee julavun ghyaayalaa tayaar aahot, navhe paradeshathee paristhitishee julavun gheunach rahat aahot. jar parkiyaanbarobar julavun gyaayache tar svakiyaan barobar ka naahee? ha vichar aamhalahee kalato. mag parat yeun navyaa umedine nokari-vyavasaay karataana satat nirashela ka samore jave lagave? he svanubhavane sangat aahe. mee kinva maajhaa navara ajunhee bharatachech naagarik aahot. va ya pudhehee rahu. aamachyaa ithe janmalelya mulila bharatiya nagarikatva milave ha prayatna aahe.
gandhijinchya velachi bharatatil paristhiti aata asati tar mulat ha prashanach aalaa nasata. ha kewal nostelgia naahi.va aamhi nkrashru dekhil dhalat naahee, hee ek vedana aahe. kotyavadhi lok jar gunyagovindane bharataat rahatat tar milel tyaa pahilya sandhila desh ka sodatat?
'bhavishya' 'career' yaa goshti maage lagun aai-vadil, naatevaik sodun aamhi sukhasukhi ithe rahanya itake swarthi naahi. mala itakech mhanayache aahe kee N.R.I chee baju samajavun ghyaa. yaa goshtinvar tika karanyapeksha paristhitit badal karata yeil ka he ka pahu shakat nahi? bharataatun braindrain kamee hoil kinva paradeshee gelele lok parat kase yetil ase kahee karata yenaar nahi ka?

P.S. lashkaratil javansathi aamachya 'N.R.I.' mitramandalini barech paise jamavun Dehli madhye army welfare centerla dile aahet.

Weldoda
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 7:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

gaunhogaarI krNaoÊ KMDNaI maagaNao ho kaya mahapap samajaayacao..Aaja Baartat kahI krayacao Jaalao tr kuzlaotrI naoto pd hvao..ikvaaM pOXaacaI Ba@kma baajau hvaI.
(a pOkI pOsao imaLivaNao jaast saÜpo Aaho...AaNaI prdoXaat rahuna sau~ hlaivaNao AaNaKInaca. (a mauLo kuNaItrI banaayacao tr gaunhogaar banauna mast dubaš maQao raihlao tr kaya vaašTÆ
tsao hI gaaMQaI^cao naava saaMgaNaaro doXaalaa ivakayalaaca inaGaalaot..tr %yaat hatBaar laa}na doXaca ivakt Gaotlaa tr kaya ibaGaDlaoÆÆ Aamha gaunhogaaraM iXavyaa doNyaapuvaI- tumacyaa%yaa Ba`YT yaM~Naolaa caar Xabd saaMgaa kI rava²
saM~st gaunhogaaracaI kOiÔyat

Lalu
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 7:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

shrini tulaa kaya mhNaayacao Aaho kLlao naahI. mhNajao Amaoirkonao yaa yauwat paikstanalaa paizmbaa idlaa tr... Asao mhNaayacao Aaho ka tulaaÆ tsao Jaalao tr AapNa D.C. maQao jaa]na inadXa-nao kÉ naa Congress samaÜr. :-)

Shrini
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 8:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Lalu, exactly! AjaUnahI [qalyaa rajakarNaavar BaartIyaaMcaa p`Baava nagaNya Aaho. %yaamauLo yadakdaicat AXaa yauwat Amaoirka pakcyaa baajaUnao ]trlaIca tr %yaat [qalao BaartIya badla kÉ XaktIla Asao vaaTt naahI. Koirja AXaa iWnaagairk%vaamauLo inaYza sarL sarL duBaMgalyaa jaatIla. 9/11 naMtr [qalyaa BaartIyaaMnaa Anaok vaašT AnauBava Aalao hÜto... maga AXaa vaoLI tr maÜza BaDkahI ]DU XaktÜ...

qaÜD@yaat kayaÊ kI jar Amaoirkonao Amaoirkocyaa ihtacao pNa Baartacyaa Aihtacao Asao kahI inaNa-ya Gaotlao tr yaa iWnaagarIkaMcaI isqatI iktI ADcaNaIcaI hܚla Æ

tL\yaat AaiNa maL\yaat kXaalaa rhayacao Æ be boolean, quit completely or not at all...

Upashiboka
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 8:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Arch,

I agree with you. Precisely, this was the question I had asked. When you accept other country's citizenship knowingly (mostly for benefits that go with it), you have already made a "choice" that other country's citizenship is better than Indian citizenship. Once you have made that choice, why do you want back Indian citizenship? (Just to avoid hassles of getting Indian visa?)

If you are so proud of Indian Citizenship (personal, monetary or for whatever reason), then why do you give up Indian Citizenship in the first place?

Social Security, Medicare or whatever benefits sathi american citizenship ghyaychi ani mag visa kadhava lagu naye mhanoon Indian citizenship hawi, mhanaje dutappipaNa nahi ka?

Weldoda
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 8:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

well said shrini!!
ugich indian citizenship cha 'mulama' havaach kashaala?
keya..i appreciate that you have'nt given up your citizen ship and i wish you success for your kid!

Upashiboka
Monday, January 13, 2003 - 8:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

PS: It will be interesting to know how many Ex-citizens of India (2ra shabda suchla nahi.ChuBhuDyaGhya) would be interested to acquire Indian citizenship if they have to pay taxes in both the countries (similar to Canada). Asha veli PIO card bare asech watel na?
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