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Bee
Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 8:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Graceful, so do u mean that there is no God, things are all scientifically linked to each other? If there is a God & he cannot have control on such kind of natural calamities then its obvious that theist can become atheist? Those who study spiritual books they can give satisfactory answer upto some extent.

Limbutimbu
Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 9:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

>>>>the killer Tsunami tidal waves ....
puiZla ivavaocana vaOya>Ik naahI ho maa~ var ]llaoKolaolyaa vaa@yaatIla XabdancaI rcanaa puiZla ivavaocanaasa Baaga paDto

%yaa saunaamaI laaTa kIlar navh%yaa
inasagaa-cyaa jaDNaGaDNaIcyaa halacaalaIncaa tÜ ek pirNaama hÜta
%yaa laaTancyaa maagaa-t maaNausa iknvaa jao jao AaDvao Aalao %yaancaI hanaI JaalaI pNa ganmat phaÊ kI saunaamaI laaTa Ê naohomaIcyaa laaTanpoxaa maÜz\yaaÊ %yaa laaTannaa ]_oXauna kIlar Asao ivaXaoYaNa AapNa sahjaga%yaa vaaprtÜ jaovha %yaa laaTa iklar nasauna %yaa laaTa AaiNa %yaancyaa maagaa-t jao jao AaDvao yaovauna %yaancaI gaaz pDlaI %yaa karNao inamaa-Na Jaalaolaa laaTancyaa va vaaTot laaTanaa BaoTlaolyaa baabaIncaa isqatItlaa badlaÊ Asao vaNa-na na hÜta Aaplyaa Baavanaa ( maaJyaasaiht ) %yaa laaTanaa sahja jaata jaata kIlar duYT zrvau XaktatÊ tr Asalyaa Aaplyaa manaisqatIt dova yaa sanklpnaocaa XaÜQa AaiNa baÜQa AapNa Kroca maÜkL\yaa Ana DLmaLIt nasalaolyaa manaanao Gaovau Xaku ka ho kÜDo malaa ]lagaDt naahI


Bee
Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 9:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

ilambauiTmbauÊ killer (a šMga`jaI Xabdalaa marazI p`itXabd ijavaGaoNyaa Asaa Aaho :-)

Limbutimbu
Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

maI krtÜ ho tÜ qaÜDafar XabdcCla hoÊ pNa kaya kÉÊ AgadIca rhavat naahI ho
jaIvaGaoNyaa iknvaa iklar iknvaa Ajauna kÜNato ivaXaoYaNaÊ to vaaprlao jaato GaTnaocyaa BayaanaktocaI AnauBautI Aalyaavar
pNa trIhI ek sa%ya tsaoca Xaabaut rhato to mhNajao laaTa yaa laaTaca hÜ%yaaÊ %yaa inamaa-Na hÜNyaasa Baukmpacaa kaya-karNaBaava jarI Asalaa trI maaNasao maarNao iva<ahanaI krNao ha %yaancaa ]_oXa na@kIca navhtaÊ %yaa tovhaca jaIvaGaoNyaa zrtat jaovha kÜNaI caukuna %yaancyaa vaaTot AaDvao yaoto
ho jao kahI caukuna iknvaa naomakopNao itqao jaaNao ho to to %yaa %yaa zraivak vyai>ncyaa baabatItca ka hÜto AaiNa kaihncyaa baabatIt ka hÜt naahI iknvaa TaLlao jaato ha ivacaar krayalaa laavaNaara ivaYaya ho tsaoca yaovhD\yaa sava-sanhark jaIvaGaoNyaa sankTatuna doiKla kahIjaNa AaXcaya-karkir%yaa ijavaainaXaI vaacalaolao Anaok GaTnaatuna AapNa baGatÜ tovha to tsao ka vaacalao ha p`XNa pDtÜca
malaa f> p`XNaca p`XNa pDta hot


Graceful
Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Hi Bee,

I don't worry much about the existence of god. All that exist is god for me.
Furthermore, as I have already said most of such happenings can be explained by science.
Today we dont have a mechanism to predict such eventualities and have a control over destruction. Definately science will come up with such systmes to warn us about such destructive events and help us protect lives and property.
So what will you say then?
I refred to Tsunami as 'Killer' because it took lives of so many innocent children, women and men. Can't understand why god can be so cruel, if at all there is one!

Storvi
Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 2:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Gracefull, that was exactly my point. And Science has provided us means to predict these things to some extent atleast, though, this mechanism existed on pacific rim only, and the rarity of an event like this, made it seam unnecessary for govts bordering the Indian Ocean to install these mechanisms..
That will change now perhaps(hopefully).
LT, the issue about treating Tsunamis as "killer".. point noted... but I think that's what we were saying in the first place, that if people were truely objective about the events of nature, they would perhaps not believe in god as staunchly as they do now.
kusaumaaga`ja %yaaca kivatot puZo mhNatat...
icamaNyaaMcyaa Gara laaivasaI maXaala
kovaZI ivaXaala dyaa tuJaI...

AaiNa Aaja mana XaMikt ho hܚ
Aahosa kI naahIsa dovaa tu..

Asao kaihtrI...

AsaÜ ho maaJa vaOyai>k mat AahoÊ [traMvar to maananyaacaa dbaava naahI
:-)

Vijay
Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 2:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Hi everyone, thanks for your posts. And as I had said previously, this BB is opened just for expression our thoughts and feelings about what God is. The discussion is getting a little bit drifted to wheather God exists or not, but its fine.

Once we come to the conclusion that God exists, then we can think of what it is. If the conclusion is otherwise, then the story ends there only. :-) (kidding).

But I would like to draw your attention to the question I had posted....whether the existance of something depends on our faith in its existance or it has existance independent of anyone's faith in it?

I understand that this question may fit more in phylosophy than in religion. But I would like if someone can put his/her opinion on this. Perhaps, it may help us in this discussion.

To the extent my belief goes, ‘ jao jao BaoTo BaUtÊ tyaa maanaI BagavaMt ’ AaiNa ‘ jao hÜto to caaMgalyaakrta hÜto ’ (avar maaJaa svatÁcaa pUNa- ivaXvaasa Aaho. pNa to p`%ya@Xaat pUNa-pNao AacarNaat AaNaNao AvaGaD AahoÊ ho ih Kro. Mass destruction krNao ho sauwa dovaalaa kiQa kiQa garjaocao vaaTt AsaolaÊ baaikcyaa laÜkaMcyaa klyaaNaasaaiz. kaya maaihtÆÆ

The best that we can do in such situations / calamities is to give mental and financial support to the sufferers / survivors, to the extent we can. Right?



Limbutimbu
Thursday, December 30, 2004 - 5:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

http://www.loksatta.com/front.html
Í,NT pojavarcaI XaovaTcaI baatmaI phaÊ dova tarI %yaalaa.....
laÜksa<aa 30.12.04
ho Krca Xa@ya ho kaÆ


Araspani
Friday, January 07, 2005 - 3:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

namaskar.
tumacaI baÜlaNaI caalauVat.


Maitreyee
Saturday, January 08, 2005 - 2:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Aaja CNN var, Larry king live maQao ‘ God and Psunami : how do you keep faith ’ Asaa kaya-Ëma Aaho. %yaat ihndUÊ baÝwÊ mauislamaÊ iK,Xcana AXaa sava- ‘saaQaU santaMnaa’ baÜlaavaUna cacaa- AahoÊ ‘AXaa saMkTaMmaQao doiKla dovaavarcaa ivaXvaasa tumhI ksaa XaabaUt zovata ƒ How do you explain this? yaavar²² .. must be an interesting discussion ...

Sweety
Friday, January 14, 2005 - 4:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

namaskar mitra..maitrininoo,
apna sarwana pratham navin varshachya ani sankrantichya hardik shubhecha.ha khup chan topic chalu kela ahes...jyane koni kela tyane..aaj manla tar dew ahe nahi tar kahich nahi.jya pramane shunyache kaam ahe ganita madhe tasech dewache hi.pan mitrano ek sangu aplyala kharach dew pahaycha asel tar tho disto aplyala roj fakt najar hawi ahe.diwasbhar apan ek tari kaam aplyala sukh denare karat asu naa...jhala tar maag tithe dewach asto tya kamat.anyways...me ahe physics student..if u ask me by scientific ways... tar dew mhanje GRAVITY...yesss...see to this maater if gravity was not there we were not intact today...firmness was never there in the world dictionary...jar tumhi soft hearted asal tar dew mhanje majhi pahili concept and jar faaarach practical asal tar dusri concept gravity chi....

Gurudasb
Friday, January 14, 2005 - 3:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Graceful tu iktIhI mhTlaosa trI iva&anaacyaa puZo ek pa]la inayatIcao kayama AsaNaar Aaho. ho laxaat AsauVa.

Bee
Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 1:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

jyanna murteepuja aawadat nahi tee lok dew nahi ase mhanatat pan murteepuja karane hech aastik asane nawhe. barech jaN dhyan karatat aani dhyanatun chaintyanakade watachal hote. aapalyakade murteepujewar adhik bhar dila jato aani kadheekadhee ati hote.. kityek lok mahadewachya pidiwar dudh sodhatat.. agadee litress.. to litres madhe. .. kahee kaahee tup sodaatat. he karane kharach garajache aahe ka? tyapeksha te anna garib lokanna dile tar dew pawel.. tyanche aashirwad milateel. mala naasdhus aawadat nahi. tyamule mee jenwha he pahato tenwha watat hya lokanna dew mhanaje kay he neet kalat nahi.

puja karun manala prasannata labhate.. pan tee ati asoo naye.

aamache sadhu sant hyannee murteepujewar kadheech bhar dila nahi. tyanche mhanane hote.. prapt paristitit dhyana kara aani chaitanyakade watachal kara. pan aamhaalaa dhyaan karane jamat nahi.

Msgadgil
Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 9:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

garma mhNajao kayaÆ gaar mhNjao kayaÆ ihrvaa mhNjao ksaaÆ gaÜD ksaM AstÆ gaulaabaacaa vaasaÆ ma} AaiNa kDk maQyao kaya Ôrk AahoÆ
AnauBava AalyaaiXavaaya kLt naaih naaÆ
tsaMca dovaacaM Aaho²
tumacyaa naiXabaat jaovha AnauBava AahoÊ tovha tÜ AapÜAapca yao[la


Manjiri_g
Monday, February 21, 2005 - 6:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Dev nahiye mhanje ekhadya andhalyane light nahiye mhananyasarakha ahe. :-)
Dev mhanje kay ha prashna manasane vicharne mhanje, samudratalya mashane, samudra mhanje kay vicharnyasarakha ahe. :-)
vidnyanachya aadhare baryach goshti siddha hou shaktat, pan tyalahi ek maryada aste. You cannot go beyond one point. That's where science makes some assumptions.
Christians say, GOD is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient, But, they still believe in Satan, which is outside GOD. They are contradicting their own belief.
For more information :
http://www.newindpress.com/sunday/colItems.asp?ID=SEE20040220065043

Dhondopant
Friday, May 20, 2005 - 8:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

..... jao Aaho to Asao ka Aaho yaacao ]<ar maaNasaalaa imaLola AaiNa tÜ to Xabd Épat saaMgau Xakola ho Aajapya-Mt GaDlao naahI. %yaa isqatIcao vaNa-na ho krtaca yaot naahI Asaoca AapNa Aaja pya-Mt vaacalao AahoÊ eoklao Aaho. tÜ jaaNaIvaocyaa hI pilakDo Aaho AaiNa Aaplao sava- AnauBava ho jaaNaIvaoXaI inagaDIt Asatat.

AapNa šMd`IyaaMcyaa pasauna hÜNaara baÜQa samajau XaktÜ pNa tÜ kuNaalaa hÜtÜ ho kahI samajau Xakt naahI.AapNa cava Gaovau XaktÜ pNa cava GaoNaara kÜNa kIMvaa cava laagato mhNajao naomako kaya hÜto ho naahI samajau Xakt.

tumhalaa ek saaQaa p`Xna ivacaartÜ... samajaaÊ eka DÜMgaravaÉna ek dgaD gaDgaDt pD\laa.. AaiNa itqao kuNaIhI naahI tr... Aavaaja hܚla kaÆ... ikMvaa naomako kaya hܚlaÆ... dgaD pDNao hI ek GaTnaa Aaho AaiNa ... %yaa vaoLI GaDNaarI naomakI GaTnaa hI vaogaLI Aaho. Aaplao Aist%vao ho %yaa ]jao-laa Aavaaja yaa Épanao AÜLKtoya... Aaplaa DÜLa nasata tr p`kaXaacaa Aaplyaalaa kaya gaMQa³ÆÆ´ rahIlaa nasata...

.. janmajaat AaMQaL\yaa vya>Ilaa mauLat p`kaXa kaya yaacaa AnauBavaca nasatÜ.. klpnaaca kÉ Xakt nasaavaot p`kaXaacaI... ikMvaa kdaicat AsaavaIhI....

Aata sauyaa-pasauna yaoNaara kIrNa ha 8 imainaTo AaQaI sauTlaolaa AaiNa tÜ kXaatuna inamaa-Na Jaalaa tr ANaukoMd`kaMcyaa sfÜTatuna..... AaiNa %yaaca kIrNaapasauna maga AaplaI JaaDo Ana AapNa....

.. tÜ kIrNa inamaa-Na krNaarI tI ANaukoMd`koca qaMD pDlaI tr dova maaNasaat Aaho ho mhNaayalaa AapNa AsaNaar naahI. saaro kahI saMyau> Aaho. Aata hI ANaukoMd`ko trI AalaI kuzunaÆholaIyama trI Aalaaca kuzunaÆ

to mhNatat jaI iba baaMga cyaa sauÉvaatIlaa ³ÆÆÆÆÆÆ´ ho sava- ivaXva³ÆÆÆÆ´eka A%yaMt lahana kNaaevhDo hÜto. AaiNa maga %yaacaa sfÜT Jaalaa AaiNa to p`sarNa pavau laagalao. Aro²² pNa kXaat to p`sarNa pavau laagalaoÆ... mhNajao hI pÜkLI ga`uhIt QarayacaI kaÆ... kI pÜkLI pNa %yaa lahana kNaatca hÜtIÆ

maga %yaa lahana kNaabaahor kaya hÜtoÆ...

ivacaar šqao saMptat kI kaya Asao Aaplyaa AnauBavaacyaa kxaot na basaNaaro sauÉ hÜtat.

hI AqaaMga pÜkLI... kItI maÜzI AahoÆ... AaiNa kuzo saImaa Aaho kI naahIÆ ho naomako Aaho trI kayaÆ... yaa ivaXvaacaa Aaplyaalaa kQaItrI qaaMgap<aa laagaNaar Aaho kaÆ... ... evhZ\yaa maÜz\yaa jagaacaa palanakta- ha Aaho kuzoÆ... AaiNa Asalaaca tr %yaalaa ha sagaLa ]pW\yaap krNyaacaI ka baro garja BaasaavaIÆÆ %yaalaa kaya kXaacaI garjaÆkuzo nyauna Aaho %yaalaaÆtÜ svaBaavat : ca eoXvaya-vaana Aaho. tÜ puNa- Aaho.. Ana trIhI jao Aaho to AsaoÆ...


Yuvrajshekhar
Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 7:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

मी विज्ञानावर पूर्णपणे विश्वास असणारा माणूस आहे,अजून पर्यन्त माणसाला निसर्गावर विजय मिळवता आला नाहीये इतकंच,देव आहे असं मानणाय्रा माझ्या सर्व मित्रांना माझे काही प्रश्न आहेत.
१.जगातला सर्वात प्रथम जन्माला आलेला देव कोणता?
२.त्या देवाची उत्पत्ती कशी झाली?
३.तो आहे तर दिसत अथवा हवेसारखा जाणवतही का नाही?
४. हिंदू धर्माप्रमाणे ३३ कोटी देव आहेत,मग आज त्यांची लोकसंख्या सॉरी देवसंख्या वाढली नाही?
५. मग त्यांना जागेचा प्रश्न भेडसावत नाही,त्यांनी दुसरी जागा शोधली नाही रहायला? का अजून सगळे देव स्वर्गातच राहतात?

सध्या इतक्याच प्रश्नांची उत्तरे द्या बाकीचे प्रश्न यांची समाधान्कारक उत्तरे मिळल्यावर विचारीन.

बाय द वे मंजिरीजी देव मानणं न मानणं हा ज्याचा त्याचा प्रश्न आहे,विचार करण्याची कुवत असूनही आपण परंपरेतून मिळणाय्रा गोष्टी तशाच स्विकारणार असू तर आपणही डोळे असून मनाने आणि बुद्धीने आंधळेच आहोत


Moodi
Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 7:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

युवराज देव आहे की नाही हा पुढचा विचार आहे. तो करु सावकाश. पण ३३ कोटी देव म्हणजे संख्येने ३३ कोटी नव्हेच. या त्यांच्या श्रेणी ज्या ठरवल्या गेल्या त्या आहेत ३३ कोटी. कोटी म्हणजे श्रेणी.

अष्ट वसु, ११ रुद्र ( श्री शंकराची रुपे), १२ आदित्य (सूर्य), असे एकुण ३१ कोटी. ३२ वे देवगुरु बृहस्पती अन ३३ वा इंद्र. असे सर्व मिळुन ते ३३ कोटी झालेत.

देव मानणे न मानणे आपल्यावर असते. मानला तर देव नाहीतर मुर्ती.

अन निसर्गावर विजय कुणीच मिळवु शकत नाही. त्सुनामीची खबर मिळाली होती ना अमेरीकेला? मग का लाखो लोक निसर्गाचे ते तांडव थोपवु शकले नाही? तात्पुरते घर बदलणे, वाहतुकीची साधने वापरुन मानवी जीव वाचवणे, आधुनीक तंत्रज्ञान वापरुन पुढच्या हवामानाची भाकिते वर्तवणे हे शक्य आहे हो सायन्सला, मी पण सायन्स मानतेच. पण निसर्ग तो निसर्ग.

btw तुम्ही तुमच्या अती प्राचीन पुर्वजाचे नाव सांगु शकाल का? म्हणजे तुमच्या बरीच आधीची पिढी, वंशवृक्ष कोण होते ते सांगु शकाल का? ते जर सांगु शकला तर कुणीतरी येऊन तुम्हाला देव बाई होता की पुरूष हे पण सांगेल.


Ekrasik
Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 8:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

युवराज, आपल्या तिसर्या प्रश्नातच त्याचे उत्तर आहे तहान लगली तर ती दिस्ते का? ज्याचि त्यालाच जणीव होते. त्या प्रमणेच देव देवाचे आस्तित्व जणवणे हे नाकरु शकतो का?

Vijaykulkarni
Friday, May 05, 2006 - 3:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

kaahi varShaanpurvee saataaraa jilhyaat ekaa yaatrechyaa ThikaaNee chengaraachengaree houun teenashe yaatrekaru Thaar jhaale.
tyaat barichashee baayakaa mule hotee.
haa apaghaat TaaLaNe sarvashaktimaan devaalaa kaa jamale naahee?
dev hee sankalpanaa tulanene phaarach navee mhaNaje gelyaa saat ek hajaar varShaapurvee astitvaat aalelee aahe


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