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Prasadp77
Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 3:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Mandali, ha jara debatable issue aahe pan mala lokanche experience have aahet, just for knowledge purpose.

I am starting this conversation because I am facing few problems, not so much that I should pay attention to, pan they exist.
When I was in Ireland, I hardly found this but tyachi matra ikde jaasta aahe. When I talked to my friends in US even they told me that its similar in US. I would like to know your experiences.
I will put mine soon, long story

Zakki
Sunday, December 08, 2002 - 4:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

maaJyaa mato roisaJama far KÜlavar ina dUrvar psarlao Aaho. ivaXaoYatÁ gaÜáyaa katDI maQaoÊ kaL\yaa ikMvaa BaartIyaaMcyaa rMgaacyaa katDI vaalyaaMba_la Amaap itrskarÊ gaOrsamajaÊ AivaXvaasa Aaho. jaoMvha sava- kahI zIk caalaU Asato toMvha ho kLt naahIÊ pNa jara QaMVat maMdI yao} doÊ to tabaDtÜba idsaUna pDto. ivaXaoYatÁ jyaU laÜkaMmaQao [tr jyaUMnaa saava$na Qa$na [traMvar KÜTo naaTo AitXayaÜi> pUNa- AarÜp k$na %yaaMnaa naÜkrIva$na kaZNaoÊ pgaarvaaZ na doNaoÊ kamaacao Eaoya na doNaoÊ [. naohomaIca maI va maaJyaa ima~aMnaI AnauBavalao Aaho. ho f> malaa vaOyai>k rI%yaa jao AnauBavaalaa Aalao to saaMigatlao. maI [qao tIsa vaYao- Aaho ina Anaokda Asao AnauBava Gaotlyaavar baÜlatÜ Aaho. icanaI va jyaU laÜkaMpasaUna saavaQa rha² tumhalaa klpnaa naahI [tko Aatlyaa gaazIcaoÊ ina ivaXvaasaGaatkI laÜk Aahot to. Baartacyaa [ithasaat 1962 saalaI yaacaa AnauBava Aalaolaa Aaho.
eka gaÜYTIcaa ivacaar kra. Baart svatM~ Jaalaa toMvha AihMdUMcao p`maaNa A%yalp hÜtoÊ trI ihMdUMnaI secularism svaIkarlaa. naMtr lagaoca Israel caI sqaapnaa JaalaIÊ itqao pNa palestinian laÜk hÜtoÊ maga jyaUMnaI ka naahI %yaaMnaa saamaavaUna GaotlaoÆ mhNajao palestinian laÜkaMba_la malaa svatÁlaa jara pNa sahanauBaUtI naahIÊ pNa malaa jyaUMcao navala vaaTto.

Savyasachi
Monday, December 09, 2002 - 3:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

jyunchya ya goshtinmulech Hitlarcha raag hota ka?

Kalandar77
Monday, December 09, 2002 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

>> icanaI va jyaU laÜkaMpasaUna saavaQa rha² tumhalaa klpnaa naahI [tko Aatlyaa gaazIcaoÊ ina ivaXvaasaGaatkI laÜk Aahot to

KrM Aaho Ja@kIÊ maaJaa baa^sa pNa jyaU ca hÜtaÊ gaolao vaYa-BarÊ vaašT manauYya hÜtaÊ Aata tÜ jaa}na ek blonde AalaIyao.. AjaUna trI izk vaaTtoya.. :-)

Prasadp77
Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Mazi story,

This is the first time I encountered with something called as Racism. Anubhav jaasta vaait naahi pan left a mark.

When I was in Ireland, I never faced much discrimination as such rather if I face anything, almost all my friends (all Irish, not a single Indian) used to stand by me. If anyone would act smart (try to discriminate), they used to take care. Even at this time, I was out in pub with all my Irish group in Sweden.

In Stockholm, there is a ship which is now converted into a pub, there are 3 different kind of pubs in that ship. Overall, to say very good place to hang out, if you wish to have 3 different kinds of pub. You need identity card to enter in this pub (swedish security card) which I don't have as my current visa is only for 11 months and 2 weeks so I am not entitled for Swedish number.
When we tried to enter the pub, none of my Irish friends were asked for this card but I was asked and since I don't have that, I produced my International Student card which specifies my date of birth. That guy asked me for Swedish card and I told him that I am not entitled for this card for so so reasons and he goes, thats not possible, you can not enter, Don't show such cards, these cards you get in Malaysia and Thailand and one USD. I was completely frustrated by his "expressions" and his remarks. All of us understood his intentions but my Irish friend came to my rescue. He was really hard with his typical Irish language and even warned him if he tries to discriminate, he would go to police. I know that would not have helped, still. He really had very bad argument and got me in without paying single kroner. he refused to let me pay because staff gave me bad treatment and none of the staff said single word. of course, this was possible only because Jim is white chamdi, otherwise aamhala kalti maravi lagali asati.

Pan aata matra aamhi tya pub madhe muddam jaato and even Jim shows his International Student Card instead of his security card, just tyache doke firavayla.

Actually, this discrimination is because there are so many bangladeshis and Pakistanis - claiming to be Indians + turks and arabs in Nordic countries, that scandinavians consider them as pain. Also, there are lot of refugees coming in on regular basis, so they don't care what you are doing, they just think that you are refugee, they are not wrong from their side but when I am not a burden on their economy, I don't think I deserve such treatment. (Refugees get 1000USD a month with everything free for a period of 4-5years for doing nothing, which most of the population does not agree.

Bhm
Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 6:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


ek A%yaMt vaadga`st mau_a maI maaMDNaar Aaho.
sava-saaQaarNapNao racism mhNajao gaÜáyaa laÜkaMnaI kaL\yaa vaa inamagaÜáyaa laÜkaMnaa %yaaMcyaa vaNaa-kDo baGaUna idlaolaI duyyama vaagaNaUk.

malaa Asao ivacaarayacao Aaho kI KrÜKrca ek vaMXa mhNaUna AapNa BaartIya vaa AiÍkna kaLo laÜk ho gaÜáyaaMpoxaa duyyama Aahot ka ?

gaÜro laÜk jaast AarÜgyasaMpÙ Asatat. to jaast jagatat. gaÜáyaa laÜkaMnaI A%yaMt p`gat samaaja GaDvalaolao Aahot. Anaok XaÜQa laavalao Aahot. ek saamaUihk vaO&ainak dRYTI %yaaMnaIca jaÜpasalaI. Baartat vaOyai>k dRYT\yaa qaÜr vaO&ainak AsatIla pNa %yaaMcaI prMpra idsat naahIt karNa sava- samaaja tXaI dRYTI zovat naahI. AiÍkot tr (a baabatIt AanaMdca Aaho.
tr ha gaÜáyaaMcaa vaMXa KrÜKrca [tka p`gat Asaola tr %yaaMnaI Anya vaMXaacyaa laÜkaMkDo tucCtonao phaNao svaaBaaivak naahI ka ?
ek TÜkacao ]dahrNa mhNajao maaNaUsa maakDalaa Aaplyaa barÜbarInao vaagavaU Xakola ka ?
Aqaa-t gaÜáyaaMcaa vaMXa ha KrÜKrca EaoYz Aaho ka ? sava-p`qama mhNajao jagaat na@kI kuzkuzlyaa races Aahot ? karNa jaunyaa ivaXlaoYaNaap`maaNao tInaca vaMXa Aahot negroid, mongoloid, caucasian . AaiNa BaartIya laÜk gaÜáyaaMcyaa vaMXaacaI samajalaI jaatat.
malaa hI superior race theory pUNa-pNao pTt naahI pNa %yaat qaÜDo tqya Aaho Asao vaaTto.
tumhalaa kaya vaaTto ?


Asami
Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 7:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

bhm,

eka arthane tumche mhanane barobar aahe. pan ekhada vansh duyyam asane kinva naahi he tharvaylala tumhi mhatale tevadhech factors ka consider karayache ? sanskruti, bhasha, sahitya, samajik drushtikon, prgalbhataa, nisargaashi thevalele naate asha etar goshtincha ka vichaar kela jau naye ?
asha goshti consider kelya tar sarvach babatimadhe gore lokach pudhe asateel ase nahi.
In short, ekhada vansh duyyaam aahe ki nahi hyache mapdand compare hot asalelya vanshani tharavine chukiche aahe.
e.g. aaj vidhyanat pragat asalele gore lok 500-1000 varshanpurvi kaay avsthemadhe hote ? ani mug asha veli oriental ani indian cultures kay sthitimadhe hotya ? Mug tyaweli te shresth hote ka ? tyaveli jar racism cha mudda uthala nasel tar jaasti pragalbhata koni dakhavili ?

navya theorypramane manushyacha vanshaj afrikemadhe ugam pavun sarvatra pasarala. tithalya paristhitipramane tyanmadhe badal zale. mag bhedbhaav kas akarnaar ?

Bhm
Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

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sanskruti, bhasha, sahitya, samajik drushtikon, prgalbhataa, nisargaashi thevalele naate asha etar goshtincha ka vichaar kela jau naye ?
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(a sava- gaÜYTI mhNajaoca saMsaÌtI naahI ka ? BaaYaa , saaih%ya , saamaaijak dRYTI (a maaJyaamato saMsaÌtIcaa Baaga Aahot.
AaiNa gaÜáyaaMcaI saMsaÌtI EaoYz Aaho ka ? malaa vaaTto kI Aaho.
inarpoxa tulanaa hÜt Asaola AaiNa tI kuNaIhI pDtaLUna pahU Xakt Asaola tr AXaI tulanaa kuNaIhI kolaI trI kaya ibaGaDto ?
500 vaa 1000 vaYaa-pUvaI- gaÜro laÜk kuzo hÜto ? yaui@laD ga^laoilayaÜ nyaUTna AXaaMcaI jaunaI prMpra paXcaa%ya mhNajao gaÜáyaa laÜkaMkDo Aaho. ga`Ik rÜmana [%yaadI p`gat saMsaÌtI itkDo hÜ}na gaolyaa. samakalaIna jagaacyaa far maagao ho laÜk hÜto Asao malaa vaaTt naahI. Asalaoca tr AaGaaDIvarca AsatIla.

maa~ AiÍka (a baabatIt kayama maagaoca hÜtI. &at [ithasaat Asaa kuzlaahI kalaKMD naahI kI jaovha kaLa maaNaUsa ha [traMcyaa KUp puZo hÜta.

hjaar dÜna hjaar vaYao- pUvaI- racism navhto ho malaa pTt naahI. AaplaI vaNa- vyavasqaa kahI p`maaNaat (aca vaoLI banalaI. tI kmaI AiQak p`maaNaat racist Aaho. arabian nights vaacalaot tr kaL\yaa laÜkaMcaa A%yaMt Avamaanakark ]llaoK Aaplyaalaa AaZLola. tovha %yaavaoLI racism navhto Asao malaa vaaTt naahI. eKaVa rajaGaraNyaatlaa maaNaUsaca rajaopd BaUYaivaNaar ha racism ca Aaho. AaiNa tÜ far p`acaIna Aaho.

malaa vaaTto kI ivaivaQa vaMXa na@kI kQaI va ksao inamaa-Na Jaalao (a baabatIt iva&ana AjaUna baroca AMQaarat Aaho. tovha sava- vaMXaacao laÜk kmaI AiQak p`maaNaat saarKoca Aahot Asao vaO&ainak dRYTInao isaw krNao AvaGaD Aaho. ]laT laÜkaMmaQao baroca Davao ]javao Aaho Asaoca inaYpÙ hÜNyaacaa saMBava AiQak.


Thepunekar
Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

malaa tr vaaTto AapNa javaL javaL sagaLoca racist AahÜt. [qao US maQao rhatanaa AapNa laÜk naahI inaga`Ü laÜkaMba_la vaaTola tsao baÜlatÆ kQaI kQaI tr vaaTtM kI kuzohI dÜna laÜkaMmaQao jyaacaI %vacaa jastI ]jaL Asato %yaalaa dusaáyaapoxaa AapNa BaarI AahÜt Asao vaaTto. kuzotrI. manaacyaa kÜpáyaat. pNa na@kI.
The feeling of prejudice is everywhere, it's just how you deal with it, that makes difference. some poeple don't find it wrong, and we call them racists, some know it exists in them, but are wise enough not to profess it, some deny that it exists in them, and a very very tiny minority is those people who really don't feel the prejudice.

Asami
Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 1:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

bhm

sarva pratham ha mudda clear karayala hava ki "Gore" mhanaje kon ? hya BBchya swaroopawarun ani common prachalit samajanvarun gore as in Euro-American lok ase mi gruhit dharun aadhiche ani attache post karat aahe.

tulana karnyala ajibaat harkat nahi pan tulna karatana donhi bajuna samayik ase mudde nivadale pahijet. ekach bajuche mudde gheun kelelya tulanela kahich artha nahi.

sanskruti mhanje kay hya tapshilaat na shirata ase dharun chalu ki sanskruti ani vidyaan he don ghatak ghetale.
1. vidnyan : goryani vaidnyanik drushtikon ha etaranpeksha jaast pramanaat jopasala. visheshtah magil kahis hatakanmadhe.

2. sanskruti : attaparyant chya dnyaat itihasamadhe mahit asalelya sanskruti gheuya. kansanmadhe tyancha bhubhaag dila aahe.
austrasian (new zealand : maui culture)
traditional african (Southern Africa : various pygmies, bushmen tribes has rich and simple lifestyle defined for centuries)
aztecs and mayas (southern america : 500 BC)
andian (central america, I guess)
mesopotamian, sumerian, babylonian (turkey to iraq : 5000 BC onwards)
egyptian (northern africa-west asia : 3000 BC)
greek (Southern europe : 3000-300 BC)
roman (europe : 700 BC)
Byzantine Civilization (Hun) (Europe : 400-)

jya sumaras greek civilization aale tyach sumaras harrappan civilization ani hsia-shang civilization (china) asiamadhe suru zale. In short, europe madhe jenva civilizationcha maagmus hi navta tyaadhipasun asia minormadhe pragat sanskruty hotya. ani europe, america ani asiamadhe ekach veli kahi pragat sanskruti astitvaat aalya. greek sanskrutici suruwaat mesoptemiamadhun gelelya selt cultne zali.

ase asatana "gore" lok samkalin jagachya barobar hote asa mhanane khoopach dhadasache tharel. kashachya basis var gori sanskruti pudharaleli hoti asa samjayache ?

jata jata : racism : bhartiy vyavasthemadhil jaatibhedache udaharan ethe gairlaago tharel karan tyat ekach vansh aahe.

vividha vanshanchya ugamababaat je mi var lihile to latest research aahe. nukatyach kuthalya tari Time madhe vachalela. jagbharatil 900 vanshanchya lokanche DNA gola karun ha research kela hota. 98% DNA patterns similar aadhalale. uralelya 2% patternsni rang, unchi ase bahyaswaroop tharavale gele.




Prasadp77
Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 1:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Mala Vatate, discussion thode aad margala jaat aahe. My purpose of opening this BB was "IF ANYONE HAS EXPERIENCED RACISM IN OTHER COUNTRY, IF YES, HOW HAVE YOU TACKLED THAT ISSUE"

As far BHM says, I agree but don't forget one thing, we were as developed as westerners in past. Over the period of time, we did not keep it up for whatsoever reasons.

Another issue, if I agree that blacks/darks were always behind whites, You can not make such generalised statement, ekhada tari baap nighatoch. Just take simple example about that sprinter, Jamaican born dark, who later on took Canadian citizenship. When he set a record in sprinting, he was Canadian and when he was found guilty for doping, he was Jamaican born Canadian. Does anyone have explanation for this terminology?

One experience, recently I was taking one module and the supervisor was Belgique. very talented person, you tell him your name, country and research interest once and he would keep it in mind till end of the module. During discussion, some issue about culture came up and he asked me and other Chinese girl few issues and then he goes, both of you are lucky to have come from such good stock, when you learnt to write Swedes were sitting on tree and honestly all Swedes were so annoyed, no one spoke out but was noticeable.

Aso, lets be back to the track.
Final note, as far as research is concerned, whatever Asami says is absolutely correct, we all are africans under our skin, everyone on the top of this earth has come from Central Africa and then changed as per the regional necessity.

Zakki
Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 2:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

AsaamaIÊ jao Kroca caaMgalao ³gaÜroÊ kaLoÊipvaLo´ laÜk Asatat to vaNa-ivad\vaoXa maanat naahIt. saQyaa Amaoirkot trI AXaI pirisqatI Aaho kI A%yaMt baoA@klaÊ naalaayak AXaI Anaok maaNasao kovaL gaÜropNaacyaa jaÜravar [traMcaa Apmaana krtatÊ %yaaMcyaaXaI A%yaMt ]wTpNaoÊ ina far vaašT vaagatatÊ . AaiNa var daMiBakpNaoÊ tuJyaasaar#yaalaa saaMgatat kI %yaaMcaI saMskRtI EaoYz AahoÊ AaiNa tU maanatÜsa. %yaa daMiBaktocaa AaNaKInaca raga yaotÜ. maaJao mat trI Amaoirkna saMskRtI ba_la [tko vaašT Jaalao Aaho kI ivacaa$ca naka. saMpUNa- sa%ya mhNajao kaya ho bahuQaa saapDNaar naahIÊ pNa saMpUNa- Asa%ya maa~ Amaoirkot na@kIca sava-~ saapDola²

Beti
Friday, December 13, 2002 - 6:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

BHM ha KUp interesting mau_a Aaho karNa kahI jyauÊ gaÜro ha mau_a naohmaIca vaogavaogaL\yaa Xak-ravagauMizt sva$pat tÜ maaMDt Asatat. pNa caalsa- Diva-nacyaa mato p`%yaok vaMXaacaI XaairrIkÊ maanaisakÊ baÝiwk jaDNaGaDNa inaraLI Aaho %yaamauLo %yaaMcaI balasqaanao inaraLI Aahot ]d. kaLo AiQak caaMgalao KoLaDU Asatat.
tumhI jao kaL\yaa laÜkaMivaYayaI mhNat to laÝikkaqaI- Kro Aaho pNa malaa Asao vaaTto ik %yaaMcao jao parMpairk &na hÜto to gaulaamaigarI AaiNa sqalaaMtranao ivasmaRtIt gaolao Aaho. %yaamauLo %yaacao maUlya maapna naahI krta yaot. pNa kdaicat Aaplyaa Aayauvao-dap`maaNao to &ana p`gat AsaU Xakola.
AaiXayana laÜkaMba_la [traMnaI saaMigatlaoca Aaho.
Asaima mast pÜsT Aaho.

Bhm
Friday, December 13, 2002 - 7:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

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bhm

sarva pratham ha mudda clear karayala hava ki "Gore" mhanaje kon ? hya BBchya swaroopawarun ani common prachalit samajanvarun gore as in Euro-American lok ase mi gruhit dharun aadhiche ani attache post karat aahe.

>tulana karnyala ajibaat harkat nahi pan tulna karatana donhi bajuna samayik ase mudde nivadale pahijet. ekach >bajuche mudde gheun kelelya tulanela kahich artha nahi.
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sanskruti mhanje kay hya tapshilaat na shirata ase dharun chalu ki sanskruti ani vidyaan he don ghatak ghetale.
1. vidnyan : goryani vaidnyanik drushtikon ha etaranpeksha jaast pramanaat jopasala. visheshtah magil kahis hatakanmadhe.

2. sanskruti : attaparyant chya dnyaat itihasamadhe mahit asalelya sanskruti gheuya. kansanmadhe tyancha bhubhaag dila aahe.
austrasian (new zealand : maui culture)
traditional african (Southern Africa : various pygmies, bushmen tribes has rich and simple lifestyle defined for centuries)
aztecs and mayas (southern america : 500 BC)
andian (central america, I guess)
mesopotamian, sumerian, babylonian (turkey to iraq : 5000 BC onwards)
egyptian (northern africa-west asia : 3000 BC)
greek (Southern europe : 3000-300 BC)
roman (europe : 700 BC)
Byzantine Civilization (Hun) (Europe : 400-)

jya sumaras greek civilization aale tyach sumaras harrappan civilization ani hsia-shang civilization (china) asiamadhe suru zale. In short, europe madhe jenva civilizationcha maagmus hi navta tyaadhipasun asia minormadhe pragat sanskruty hotya. ani europe, america ani asiamadhe ekach veli kahi pragat sanskruti astitvaat aalya. greek sanskrutici suruwaat mesoptemiamadhun gelelya selt cultne zali.
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ga`Isa ha yaurÜpacaaca Baaga Aaho. tovha yaurÜp maQyao saMsaÌtIcaa maagamaUsa navhta ho ksao kaya ?
jasao AaiXayaacyaa kahI BaagaatlaI saByata samast AiXayaacao p`aitinaiQa%va krto tsao ga`Ik ho gaÜáyaaMcao ka naahI k$ Xakt ? kahI laÜkaMcyaa mato [ijaPtcaI saMsaÌtI hI paXcaa%ya saByatocaI sauÉvaat hÜtI. Aqaa-t yaabaabat ekmat naahI.

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ase asatana "gore" lok samkalin jagachya barobar hote asa mhanane khoopach dhadasache tharel. kashachya basis var gori sanskruti pudharaleli hoti asa samjayache ?
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bronze age civilizations (a pRqvaIcyaa AXaaca BaagaaMvar Jaalyaa ijaqalao hvaamaana [%yaadI sausa( hÜto. %yaamauLo yaurÜpathI AitqaMD jaagaI ho GaDlao naahI tr BaUmaQya samaud`acyaa Aasapasaca ho GaDlao. AaiNa itqalyaa saMsaÌtI (a yaurÜipyana saMsaÌtIca Aahot. AaiNa %yaa Anya jagaacyaa barÜbarItca hÜ%yaa. [tkoca kaya ga`IkaMnaI laavalaolao kahI XaÜQa Aajacyaa iva&anaathI maUL Qa$na Aahot jasao yaui@laDcaa vaa payaqagaÜrsacaa isawaMt. AaplyaakDo Asao XaÜQa laagaUnahI sautarkama laÜharkama vaa baaMQakama (atIla laÜk to vaaprt hÜto Asao idsat naahI. %yaabaabatIt paXcaa%ya inaÁsaMXaya EaoYz Aahot. AaiNa AXaI vaO&ainak dRYTI hI saMsaÌtIcaaca Baaga Aaho.

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jata jata : racism : bhartiy vyavasthemadhil jaatibhedache udaharan ethe gairlaago tharel karan tyat ekach vansh aahe.
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malaa Asao vaaTt naahI. %yaalaa vaNa- vyavasqaa mhNatat mhNajao %yaacao maUL kuzotrI rMgaatca Aaho. kdaicat sauÉvaatIlaa idsaayalaa vaogaL\yaa laÜkaMnaa inamna djaa- doNyaapasaUna (acaI sauÉvaat JaalaI Asaola. naMtr hjaarÜ vaYaa-MnaI ha frk kmaI Jaalaa Asaola.


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vividha vanshanchya ugamababaat je mi var lihile to latest research aahe. nukatyach kuthalya tari Time madhe vachalela. jagbharatil 900 vanshanchya lokanche DNA gola karun ha research kela hota. 98% DNA patterns similar aadhalale. uralelya 2% patternsni rang, unchi ase bahyaswaroop tharavale gele.
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ivaivaQa vaMXa ek Aahot hI 200 dXalaxa vaYaa-pUvaI-caI GaTnaa. naMtrcyaa isqa%yaMtraMivaYayaI far kahI maaiht naahI. %yaanaMtr bronze age civilizations inamaa-Na vhayalaa iktItrI kaL gaolaa. tovha maQao mutations hÜ}na %yaaMcyaat kahI badla Jaalaoca nasatIla ho kXaava$na ? inadana [ithasa baGata %yaaMcyaatlaI huYaarI AarÜgya (a vaogavaogaL\yaa Aahot Asao idsatoca Aaho.


jaata jaata , kovaL A@klaXaUnya AaiNa ]qaL laÜk Anya vaNaa-cyaa laÜkaMkDo itrskaranao baGatat Asao mhTlao Aaho. kI (acyaa ]laT Aaho kI jao Asao baGatat %yaaMnaa A@klaXaUnya AaiNa ]qaL mhNaayacaI fashion Aaho ? ivacaar kolaa paihjao (avar naahI ka ? ]dahrNa baGaU yaa. caica-la ha ek kuXala naota ]tÌYT va>a pNa ha gaÜáyaaMnaa vaMXaalaa EaoYz AaiNa [traMnaa kinaYz maanaNaara. Aata ha maUK- ADaNaI ]qaL vagaOro mhNata yaošla kaya ?

ha ivaYaya BarkTt Aaho (acaI jaaNaIva Aaho. pNa racism caI cacaa- krtanaa ha mau_a Aba`*maNyama mhNaUna baajaUlaa zovalaa jaatÜ. Aip`ya Asalaa trI tÜ ivasa$ nayao kI (a ivaYayaacaI cacaa- krta yaoto hI (a paXcaa%ya saMsaÌtIcyaa p`ya%napUva-k imaLvalaolyaa p`galBatomauLo GaDto Aaho. Anya saMsaÌtIt AXaa " kma Assala " laÜkaMnaa baÜlaUca idlao nasato. AajahI idlao jaat naahI.
Aqaa-t vaMXa EaoYz AsaUna jar eKada samaaja savaa-Mnaa saarKoca vaagavat Asaola tr saÜnyaahUna ipvaLo.



Asami
Friday, December 13, 2002 - 8:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

bhm greece ha aaj Europecha bhaag dharla jaat asala tari aadhi navta. Tenva to asia minorcha bhaag dharla jaat ase. Mul mudda ha aahe ki Greek sanskrutichya aadhihi etar bhagnmadhe (jya aaj kanishtha manalya gelya aahet ) tithe pragat sanskruti astitvaat hotyaa. tyamule sanskrutimadhe goryanchi varchadhata manane barobar nahi.

hushari arogya hya goshti vanshanvar avalambun nasataat tar bhaugolik parishtiti, havamaan, rahanimaan, annacha darja asha baryach goshtinvar avalambun asataat. jari hyapaiki barechse ghatak he parishramatun ubhe karata yet asale tari te instanteneous nasataat, tyala kahi kala jaava lagto.

keval vaidnyanik drushtikon thevala gela mahnun amka vansh shreshth ase mhanane sayuktik honaar nahi. gelya 2 shatakanmadhil itihasik parshvabhumi lakshaat ghetali tar ase lakshat yeil ki europian deshani jagachya 80% pradeshavar kabja milavala hotaa. Tyatil kiti janani stahnik sanskruti jopasalya he baghane kutuhalacha bhaag hoil. baryachsha thikani paschatya sanskranchi lagvan ani swathache asan balkat karayachya praytnanmadhe sthanik vahivaati dhulis milavalya gelya aahet.

pashachatya sanskrutina vaidhanik drushtikon tikoon rahila ani tyatil ghadamodi hya progressive patterns madhe rahilya hyachi mukhyatve karan documentation (he maze mat nahi). maya, aztec ani asia madhil barychsha sanskrutinmadhe purvapaar dyaan he fakt maukhik swaroopamadhe eka pidhikadun dusrya pidhikade prasarit kele gele. likhit swaroopaat te karayala barach ushir zala. hyaulat europian sanskrutinmadhe te likhit (paper, parchments, structures) swaroopaat thevale gele.

vichar karnyasarakha ek mudda mhanaje bahutek asiam africamadhil deshana gelya 60-90 varshnmadhe swatantraprapti zali aahe. evadhya varshanmadhe kiti deshani aapale rahnimaan unchavale aahe he baghnyasarakhe aahe. kiti deshanchi rajkiy, economic dakhal jagala ghyavi lagate ? hyaulat france, england sarakhya deshanche aajachya jagat kharach kaay sthaan aahe he baghane interesting asel.

About genetic reasearch, ha research gelya 2-3 varshanmadhe kela gela aahe. mazya aathavate tyapramane US madhil genetic research karanarya sansthani ha kela aahe. ani tyanusarach ugam ekach aahe ani majority DNA patterns (98%, which I'll say almost 100%) sarakhe aahet. arthaat tumhala tyachi link etc mi deu shakat nahi. TIME chya 1-2 mahinyapurvichya issuemadhe tyacha ullekh hotaa.




Zakki
Saturday, December 14, 2002 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

bhm, vya%yaasa naohomaIca Kra nasatÜ. maUK-Ê ADaiNa laÜk jao krtatÊ to dusaáyaanao kolao mhNajao dusara lagaoca maUK-ca Jaalaa Asao naahI. AaiNa %yaaMnaa maUK- ADaiNa mhNaNyaacao karNa to vaNa-ivad\vaoYa krtat mhNaUnaca navho pNa to KrÜKrca maUK- va ADaiNa AahotÊ [tr Anaok baabatIt sauwa. caica-la kDo [trih kahI gauNa hÜtoÊ pNa %yaacaI gaÜro laÜk EaoYz hI samajaUt pNa caukIcaIca mhNaIna maI. tU bahuQaa iXaklaolyaa laÜkaMt vaavartÜsaÊ mhNaUna tulaa gaÜro laÜk baro vaaTtatÊ pNa maI [qao inarinaraL\yaa karNaaMmauLo barIca vaYao- sava-saamaanya laÜkaMcyaat GaalaivalaI Aahot. %yaaMcyaa A&anaaivaYayaI kaya saaMgaavao² tr A&anaI Asalaolao Aaplao BaartIya laÜk jasaa vaNa- ³jaat´ ivad\vaoYa krtat tssaaca hoih krtat. mhNajao %yaamauLo to maUK- naahItÊ tr ervaIhI tsalaoca²

Zakki
Saturday, December 14, 2002 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

bhm, vya%yaasa naohomaIca Kra nasatÜ. maUK-Ê ADaiNa laÜk jao krtatÊ to dusaáyaanao kolao mhNajao dusara lagaoca maUK-ca Jaalaa Asao naahI. AaiNa %yaaMnaa maUK- ADaiNa mhNaNyaacao karNa to vaNa-ivad\vaoYa krtat mhNaUnaca navho pNa to KrÜKrca maUK- va ADaiNa AahotÊ [tr Anaok baabatIt sauwa. caica-la kDo [trih kahI gauNa hÜtoÊ pNa %yaacaI gaÜro laÜk EaoYz hI samajaUt pNa caukIcaIca mhNaIna maI. tU bahuQaa iXaklaolyaa laÜkaMt vaavartÜsaÊ mhNaUna tulaa gaÜro laÜk baro vaaTtatÊ pNa maI [qao inarinaraL\yaa karNaaMmauLo barIca vaYao- sava-saamaanya laÜkaMcyaat GaalaivalaI Aahot. %yaaMcyaa A&anaaivaYayaI kaya saaMgaavao² tr A&anaI Asalaolao Aaplao BaartIya laÜk jasaa vaNa- ³jaat´ ivad\vaoYa krtat tssaaca hoih krtat. mhNajao %yaamauLo to maUK- naahItÊ tr ervaIhI tsalaoca²

Prasadp77
Sunday, December 15, 2002 - 3:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Please come to the centre of the topic

Chafa
Monday, December 16, 2002 - 4:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Bhm, sauroK pÜsT. Prasadp77 [qalaI cacaa- maJyaasaarKoca Anaok jaNa vaacat AsatIla AaiNa jarI ho Kro AnauBava nasalao trI hI cacaa- na@kIca interesting AahoÊ tovha satt center of topic (?)caa Aaga`h Qarlaa jaa} nayao Asao vaaTto.

Bhm
Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 2:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

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bhm greece ha aaj Europecha bhaag dharla jaat asala tari aadhi navta. Tenva to asia minorcha bhaag dharla jaat ase. Mul mudda ha aahe ki Greek sanskrutichya aadhihi etar bhagnmadhe (jya aaj kanishtha manalya gelya aahet ) tithe pragat sanskruti astitvaat hotyaa. tyamule sanskrutimadhe goryanchi varchadhata manane barobar nahi.
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AapNa AXaa vaoLobaabat baÜlat AahÜt jaovha yaurÜp va AiXayaa hI ivaBaagaNaI Aist%vaatca navhtI. ga`Ik saMsaÌtI hI inaÁsaMXaya gaÜáyaa laÜkaMcaI hÜtI. tsaohI AiXayaa va yaurÜp hI ivaBaagaNaI Anya KMDaMsaarKI BaÝgaÜilak nasaUna saaMsaÌitk Aaho. AaiNa Aaplyaalaa maaiht Asalaolyaa ga`Ik saMsaÌtI AaQaI itkDo p`acaIna ga`Ik saMsaÌtI Asalyaacao puravao Aahot. tovha AiXayaa maayanar mhTlaa mhNaUna itqalao laÜk kuzlao hÜto ho badlat naahI.

[t@yaa p`acaIna kaLat gaÜro varcaZ hÜtoca Asao maI zasaUna mhTlaolao naahI pNa inadana to Anya jagaacyaa barÜbar na@kIca hÜto Asao maaJao mhNaNao Aaho.
[ijaPt maQalao rajao raNyaa (a vaNa-naava$na gaÜáyaa laÜkaMsaar#yaa Asaavyaat Asao vaaTt naahI ka ? ho laÜk AiÍkna kaLo tr na@kIca navhto. Aqaa-t %yaaMcyaa gaÜropNaaivaYayaI malaa na@kI maaiht naahI.

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vichar karnyasarakha ek mudda mhanaje bahutek asiam africamadhil deshana gelya 60-90 varshnmadhe swatantraprapti zali aahe. evadhya varshanmadhe kiti deshani aapale rahnimaan unchavale aahe he baghnyasarakhe aahe. kiti deshanchi rajkiy, economic dakhal jagala ghyavi lagate ?
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ho doXa gaulaamaigarIt iKtpt pDlao. gaÜro laÜk hjaarÜ maOla dUrcyaa doXaatUna yao}na (a laÜkaMvar rajya
k$ Xaklao ho %yaaMcyaa kuvatIcao inadXa-k naahI ka ?
(aca kaLat eka gaÜáyaa doXaanao dusaáyaa gaÜáyaa doXaavar XaokDÜ vaYao- rajya kolao Asao ka naahI idsalao ?
ivaL\yaaBaÜpL\yaacao sa#ya AsaNaaro baroca gaÜro doXa hÜto pNa ekanao dusaáyaalaa kahI Xatko vaa dXako gaulaama banavalyaacao ka idsat naahI ?
kovaL kaLo va inamagaÜro laÜkca gaulaama ka banalao ? AaiNa mahayauwanao gaÜrI raYT/o kmajaÜr hܚpya-Mt kuNaIca svatM~ hÜ} Xaklao naahI Asao ka ?

kaL\yaa laÜkaMbaabat tr ho farca jaaNavato. ho laÜk kayama gaulaamaigarIt ka hÜto ? na@kIca kuzotrI
ho laÜk kmaI pDlao mhNaUna. jaga ho (abaabat far inaYzur Aaho. dubaL\yaa laÜkaMvar dyaa daKvalaI jaat naahI. AaiNa toca [qao Jaalao.

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pashachatya sanskrutina vaidhanik drushtikon tikoon rahila ani tyatil ghadamodi hya progressive patterns madhe rahilya hyachi mukhyatve karan documentation (he maze mat nahi). maya, aztec ani asia madhil barychsha sanskrutinmadhe purvapaar dyaan he fakt maukhik swaroopamadhe eka pidhikadun dusrya pidhikade prasarit kele gele. likhit swaroopaat te karayala barach ushir zala. hyaulat europian sanskrutinmadhe te likhit (paper, parchments, structures) swaroopaat thevale gele.
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punha tÜca p`Xna. &ana ho Asao saMga`iht kolyaanao to Éjaola AaiNa vaaZola hI gaÜYT f> yaurÜipyana laÜkaMnaaca ka laxaat yaavaI. AaplyaakDohI BaUja-p~ vagaOro hÜto. pNa %yaavar pUjaocao maM~ AaiNa Anya kma-kaMDo ilaihlaI gaolaI. Aaplyaa Anaok ipZ\yaa ho maM~ GaÜkt hÜ%yaa. %yaat samaajaalaa KrÜKrca ]pyaÜgaI kahI mauLat Asalao tr naMtr to ivasarlao gaolao. mhNajao gaiNatacaI sau~o AXaI ipZ\yaana ipZ\yaa GaÜklaI AsatI vaa AÝYaQaaMcaI naavao AaiNa gauNa tr baroca fayado Jaalao Asato. pNa Asalyaa maM~aMcaa kahI ]pyaÜga navhta. [t@yaa p`dIGa- [ithasaat ekhI klpk rajaa inaGaU nayao kI jyaalaa ho kLavao AaiNa %yaanao ga`Mqainaima-tIlaa ]<aojana Vavao ?
ek Xa@yata Aaho kI mauislama AaËmakaMnaI AXaa Anaok p`isaw laayaba`yaa- jaaLUna naYT kolyaa. pNa Asao &ana jar sava-dUr psarlao Asato. jasao gavaMDI laÜhar vaa sautar yaaMnaa ka%yaayanaaMcaI Xaulbasau~o iXakvalaI gaolaI AsatI tr to &ana naYT krta Aalao nasato.
malaa ha ek yaÜgaayaÜga vaaTt naahI. pUNa- karNamaImaaMsaa k$na yaurÜpat Aaplao &ana ilahUna zovaayacaI pwt pDlaI Aaho. AaiNa ho %yaaMcaa EaoYzpNaaca isaw krto.



Wakdya
Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 5:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

BHM varIla ivaYayaat malaa Ôarsao &ana naahI pNa trIhIÊ tumacaa XaovaTuna dusara pircCodavar .. ..
jaovha AamhI mhNatÜ kI saat%yaanao 2000 vaYaa-McaI AaËmaNao.. tovha %yaacaa Aqa- GanaGaÜr h<yaa.. nauksaanaÊ %yaalaa p`tIkar krtanaa (a doXaatlaI kaiL janata jar kuzo kmaI pDlaI Asaola tr ËurpNaat.. ikMbahunaa Ëur AaËmaNaacaa Aqa- samajauna %yaasa p`tIkar krNyaayaovhDI ]saMt imaLuna to yaXsvaI hÜNyaat bairca Xao vaYao- KcaI- pDlaIÊ ka Xao vaYao- KcaI- pDlaIÆ et%doiXaya kaLo kmaI praËmaI hÜto kaÆ tsao naahIyao ² %yaa krta Kupca KÜlaat jaavao laagaola AaiNa tÜ yaa BB caa ivaYaya naahI AaiNa maI tovhDo tpXaIla Aa<a dovau Xakt naahI. pNa tumacyaa %yaa pircCodat ek sauPt ]llaoK jaaNavatÜ tÜ mhNajao maM~ tM~ ho kahI ivaiXaYz samaajaanao Ê jaatInao mhNau hvao trÊ DaMbauna zovalao.. yaa ivaQaanaasa maI sahmat hÜvau Xakt naahI.Ê baakI tumacao ivavaocana sauMdr Aaho.. malaa %yaat tRTI jaaNavatayaot pNa Ô> jaaNavatayaot.. sPYT krta yaot naahIyaot..² jaoÉsalaoma ikMvaa %yaasaBaÜvatalauna kahI saMsaÌtI ]dyaasa Aalyaa ina naMtr kalaÜ^Gaat áhasa pNa pavalyaa.. itqaunaca jao kahI laÜk gaolao yaurÜpat to Aajacao yaurÜipAnaÊ [qapya-Mt malaa saur laagatÜ Aaho.. pNa maI %yaa maagao jaavau [icCtÜ jyaasa yaaxaiNa majakDo ksalaahI AaQaar iXavaaya tka-cyaaÊ naahI. kIÊ jaoÉsalaoma vaa %yaa Baagaat mauLat gaolaolao laÜk ho doiKlaÊ mauLatuna BaartatunaÊ mahaBaartaitla mahayauwanaMtr gaolao Asaa kahI matp`vaah Aaho.. AsaÜ. tumacao caalauVa²

Bhm
Tuesday, December 17, 2002 - 6:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


ek caUk maI AaQaIca kbaUla krtÜ. gaÜro laÜk gaulaama navhto Asao maI mhTlao Aaho. pNa bahuQaa rÜmana saama`ajyaacyaa kaLat iba`Tna ho %yaaMcyaa AiQap%yaaKalaI hÜto. asterix comics maQao ilaihlaolao Kro Asaola tr ÍansahI rÜmana AaiQap%yaaKalaI hÜta. caU BaU Va Gyaa.


Zakki
Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

pNa far far pUvaI- kaya Jaalao %yaapoxaa Aa<aa kya caalalao AahoÆ to tsao Jaalao yalaa karNa AsaolahIÊ pNa to caUk Aaho naaÆ pNa sa%ya Aaho. toMvha %yaaba_la AapNa kaya krayacao kI jaoNaok$na Aaplyaalaa ~asa hÜNaar naahIÆ

Bhm
Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 2:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


malaa saucaNaaro kahI ]paya
1. Xa@yatÜ California vaa New York, New Jersey Asalyaa bahurMgaI bahudoXaI jaagaI rhavao. [qao vaNa-d\vaoYa [tka jaaNavat naahI. Aqaa-t ha maaga- savaa-Mnaa ]plabQa Asaola Asao naahI.

2. cultural differences (aivaYayaavar saaih%ya vaacaNao. ik%yaokda AapNa 20­25 vaYao- Aaplyaa saMsaÌtIt vaaZlaolao AsalyaamauLo ik%yaok gaÜYTI Aaplyaa laxaat yaot naahIt. ]da. maIiTMga maQyao Tobalaavar paya zovaUna basaNao ho [kDo [tko ]ma-TpNaacao maanat naahIt. tIca gaÜYT KaNyaacaI. AaplyaakDo XaaLot vaga- caalaU Asatanaa kuNaI Kallao tr gahjaba hÜtÜ pNa [kDo %yaat kahI gaOr maanat naahIt. maa~ [kDo samaÜrcyaacao baÜlaNao saMpNyaapUvaI- AapNa %yaalaa tÜDUna Aaplao sau$ krNao far AiXaYT maanatat. tIca gaÜYT vaoL paLNao , Xabd paLNao , svacCta (aMcaI. Asaa caailairtIMcaa AByaasa k$na Xa@ya ittko sqaainak laÜkaMsaarKo vaagalao tr (a gaÜYTIcaa ]pd`va kmaI hܚla. sqaainak laÜkaMcaI baÜlaIBaaYaa jaastIt jaast Aa%masaat krNao ho AjaUna ek.
3. Aaplyaa xao~at ]<ama kama krNao. Amaoirkot jar eKada maaNaUsa %yaacyaa maalakalaa fayada k$na dot Asaola tr AXaa maaNasaalaa gaÜYTI baáyaaca saÜPyaa hÜtat. %yaacaa Anya " ivaica~pNaa " ittka manaavar Gaotlaa jaat naahI. AaiNa AXaa maaNasaalaa naÜkrIva$na GaalavaNao nauksaanaIcao AsalyaamauLo tsao sahjapNao hÜt naahI.


BTW Trent Lott p`krNa jao Aa<aa caalaU Aaho to phata eka AiQakarI maaNasaalaa (a ivaYayaavar ]GaD vaNa-d\vaoYaI BaUimaka GaoNao javaLjavaL AXa@ya Aaho Asao vaaTto.
(anao kolaolyaa eka vaNa-d\vaoYasaUcak ivaQaanaamauLo (a maaNasaalaa caar paca vaoLa maafI maagaavaI laagalaIca pNa Aata %yaacaI KucaI-hI QaÜ@yaat AalaI Aaho.


Zakki
Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Aamacyaa [qao ekda eka quintessential WASP maaNasaanao maITIMgamaQao mhMTlao kI 'any monkey can write plays like Shakespear, given infinite time and a typewriter ' . %yaabarÜbar %yaalaa human resources kDUna sa> taikd imaLalaI ina var diversity training caa ek AazvaD\yaacaa kÜsa- Gyaavaa laagalaa. karNa monkey ha Xabd kQaI kQaI kaL\yaa laÜkaMnaa ]_oXaUna vaaprtat²

Zakki
Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

BHM nao ilaihlaolao malaa ekdma pTlao.
maaJyaa svatÁ baabat baÜlaayacao tr dubaL\yaa manaacaa maIÊ kuiNa ‘Aro’ mhMTlao tr ‘ka ro’ mhNaayacaI ihMmat naahI. svatÁcaa h@k AsaUnahI mauLmauiLtpNaa k$na gaPp basaayacao. Aa%maivaXvaasaacaa p`caMD ABaava. AXyaa laÜkaMcaa kuiNahI fayada Gaošlaca. AgadI maaJaI AašÊ ina sa#Ko Baa} sauwa² %yaaMnaa dÜYa do}na kaya ]pyaÜgaÆ yaa paXva-BaUimavar ek baatmaI vaacaa. kahI vaYaa-MpUvaI- eka phaNaIt AaZLUna Aalao kI dha p`gat doXaaMtIla 8 to 16 vaYao- vayaacyaa maulaaMmaQao gaiNatÊ Xaas~ [. ivaYayaaMt Amaoirkna maulaaMcaa naMbar kuzohI pihlyaa pacaat doKIla Aalaa naahI. pNa Aa%maivaXvaasa yaa category maQao AmaoirknaaMnaI [traMnaa pa|r maagao Taklao. baatmaI saaMgaNaara mhNaalaa ‘ Aamhalaa kaihhI yaot naahIÊ pNa caukIcao ]<ar sauwa AamhI Asao zasaUna do] kI laÜkaMnaa to Kroca vaaTavao²’
mhNaUna maI mhNatÜ kI [tr ksao AahotÆ ka tsao AahotÆ yaapoxaa maI ksaa AahoÊ maaJyaat kahI dÜYa Aahot kaÆ yaacaa jaast ivacaar kravaa. maga EaI C~ptI iXavaajaI maharaja mhNaalao %yaap`maaNaoÊ ‘manaat AaNaala tr kaya vaa+ola to k$ Xakala²’ ibacaaáyaaMnaa jaIvao maarayalaa laÜk ]zlao AsaUna %yaaMnaI kovhZo kaya- kolao² ina [qao tr kayado sauwa Aaplyaa baajaUnao AsaUna AapNa rDt basatܲ KMt vaaTto.

Sasuli
Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 5:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

atyant STUTYA BB.... keep it up people

Upashiboka
Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 5:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Zakki cao varIla pÜsT maQaIla ivacaar pTlao. ekndrIt marazI svaBaava Asaa vaaTtÜ kI " manaat AaNalao tr vaaGa maarInaÊ maolaÜ trI manaat AaNaNaar naahI " .

Zakki
Wednesday, December 18, 2002 - 8:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

]paXaIbaÜkaÊ tuJao XaovaTlao vaa@ya Cana Aaho²
pNa maI f> maaJyaa svatÁba_la ilaihlao. AnaokÊ Anao|k marazI laÜk maaJyaapoxaa KMbaIr manaacao ina ktu-%vavaana Aahot baro. toMvha maaJyaava$na marazI maaNasaacaI prIxaa k$ nakÜsa.

Bhm
Thursday, December 19, 2002 - 8:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message


racism in foreign countries (a ivaYayaalaa Qa$na malaa Asao mhNaayacao Aaho kI hllaI Amaoirkot rajakIya patLIvar kaL\yaa laÜkaMcao reverse racism caalaU Aaho kI kaya Asaa saMXaya yao} laagalaa Aaho. mhNajao kaL\yaaMcyaa DÜMgara evaZ\yaa caukahI dula-ixat rhatat pNa gaÜáyaanao kaL\yaaMivaÉw Ku+ kolao kI samast maaQyamao kNa-kTU gaÜMgaaT k$ laagatat. AaiNa kaLo naotohI (acaa fayada Gao}na AaplaI tuMbaDI Bartat. ]da. jaosaI ja^@sana. ha gaRhsqa Aaplyaa T^@sacyaa ihXaobaat laaKÜ Da^larcyaa gaflatI krtÜ AaiNa ]jaL maaqyaanao ihMDtÜ. Aaplyaa mistress caohI ]KL paMZro k$na dotÜ AaiNa non-profit organization cyaa naavaaKalaI Ba`YTacaar krtÜ. itkDo saamaanya kaLo laÜk iXaxaNaapasaUna vaMicat Aahot kuTuMbao mhNaUna ek~ naaMdNao kmaI Jaalao Aaho Asalyaa gaÜYTIMcaI (a nao%yaaMnaa kahI ifkIr naahI. maa~ Trent Lott var tÜMDsauK Gyaayalaa (aMnaa Amaap vaoL AsatÜ.

Aaplyaa dilat nao%yaaMpoxaa ho far vaogaLo naahI. AsaÜ.
malaa vaaTto kI [tko vaYao- gaÜáyaaMnaI CLlao %yaacao ]+o kaZayalaa kaL\yaaMnaI Asao DܚjaD vhayacao ho malaa pTt naahI.


Champak
Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 8:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

apan saglyani milun gore an european an americans la jaam chalale pahije. Me ter jaam traas deto tyanna.

Saale sagale katora gheun basale pahijet.

Zakki
Monday, November 17, 2003 - 4:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

maaJaa raga tr jyaU laÜkaMvar Aaho. kuzohI dÜna jyaU AsatIla tr itsaáyaa jyaU nasalaolyaa maaNasaacaa pwtXaIrpNao kaTa kaZNyaat %yaaMcaa hat kuiNahI Qa$ XakNaar naahI. KÜTo baÜlaNaoÊ dusaáyalaa baÜlaUca na doNao ho tr %yaaMcyaa hatcaa maL² svatÁcaa ]dÜ ]dÜ ina dusaáyaacyaa ivaÉw kujakTÊ KÜTo naaTo Apmaanakark ilaKaNa k$na prt bauiwvaadIpNaacao ZÜMga krNao hohI %yaaMcaoca kama² tumhalaa kaya vaaTtoÊ ekTa ihTlarca %yaaMcyaa ivaÉw hÜtaÆ sagaLoca jama-na %yaaMcyaavar BaDklao hÜto²

Rimzim
Monday, November 17, 2003 - 5:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

zakki : hi nsvich info sshe msjhysdsthi.
sts ys pudhe koni juiesh bhetala tar lakshat thevayala hava .thx

Storvi
Monday, November 17, 2003 - 6:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

Ja@kIÊ yaabarÜbar ]laTa AnauBava Aaho maaJyaa kDo. Aamacyaa kMpnaI caa CEO jyaU AahoÊ AaNaI [tr kahI employees jyaU Aahot. Aamacyaa kMpnaI [tkI Qama- inapo-xata maI yaa pUvaI- paihlaI navhtI. sagaLo [tr saMsaÌtIMba_la Aadr baaLgatat. drvaYaI- christmas cyaa saumaarasa sava- Qamaa-Mcao decoration laavatat. maaJyaa ArMgaoT/ma saazI tr %yaaMnaI company picnic ek AzvaDa puZo ZklalaI...

Zakki
Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 2:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post  Link to this message

p`Xna f> yaotÜ jaoMvha tumhI %yaaMcyaaXaI spQaa- krNyaacyaa pirisqatIt Asatat toMvha. dusara eKada jyaU ina tU yaaMcyaat inavaDayacao Asaola tr maga pha ksao vaagatat to² inadana tU %yaaMcyaa psaUna saavaQa rha Asaoca mhNaona maI.

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