Jaganbua
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dost log,
aapaN nawaa khel chaalu karuyaa kaa? ekhaadaa shabd niwaDaaychaa aaNi tyaachaa ugam saa.ngaaychaa.
udaharNaarth:-
"kaan phaTyaa" haa shabd aghor bairaagee para.mparetun suroo jhaalaa ase waaTate. tyaa pa.nthaa madhye dikshaa detaanaa kaanaat moThe baaLe aDakawataat. he bairaagee jaadu ToNaa karat asat ase jan mat asaayche. tyaamuLe gaawaat jaraa kaahee taree wichitra ghaDale (kolhyaa kutryaa nee pret ukarale ityaadee) kee lok jaaon bairaagyaalaa gaawaatun huskun det asat. mhaNun 'ekdaa kaan phaTyaa naav paDale kee...' hee mhaN aalee ase waTate
ase kaahee bhannaaT aaThawat asel tar post karaawe. shabdkodee tar miLanyaache chances shunya, nidaan asaa tari shabd sa.ngrah tajaa Thevuyaat, kaay?
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Rhul
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| | Monday, November 23, 1998 - 1:26 am: |
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khunya murlidhar la khunya ka mantat?
chapekarani dravid bandhuncha khun tithe kela
nana fadnvisane ekpatwardhanachya murlidharaci murti balatkare rajwadayat basvanyacha pratnya kela tyawarun choti chakmak udali.garadi(paharekari) ghusale rakt sandle barech lok marle gale ase mantat.
varil karnamule khunya murlidhar nav padale ase mantat.
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Jaganbua
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| | Monday, November 23, 1998 - 8:02 pm: |
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are, ghaDyaaL haa shabd kasaa aalaa yaachee nakkee mahitee kuNaalaa aahe kaa? malaa waTate kee 'ghaDee' yaa faarsee shabdaashee tyaachaa jawaLachaa sa.mba.ndh aahe. paN aikaayalaa shabd bhannaaT aahe kee naahee?
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Mahavirk
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| | Tuesday, November 24, 1998 - 2:26 pm: |
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mitraho,
"ghaDi" ha shabda farasee navhe! ha chakka marathi shabdat aahe. (e.g. ghaDi ghaDi mala ase satavoo nakos.)
mazya maahitipramaane, ghaDi ha shabda "ghaD" hya dhatu paasoon aalaay. tyamuLe ha shabda "parabhashi" hya vibhagaatala nasoon "deshi" hya vibhagaatala aahe.
Tip:
shabdaanchya utpattiche chaar prakaar vyakaranaat saangitle aahe: "tatsam", "tadbhav", "deshi" ani "parabhashi". english medium chya vidyarthyansaathi hi taL-Tip detoy.
mahavir.
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Jaganbua
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| | Tuesday, November 24, 1998 - 6:48 pm: |
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mahavir,
marathi chaa aaNi madhya purvetalyaa deshaa.nchaa sa.mba.ndh mogal ma.NDaLee bhaarataa madhye to.nD daakhawaaychyaa aadhee paasoon aahe. shurpaarak mhaNaje aajche sopara he tyaa kaaLche moThe bandar hote. tyaamuLe ghaDee haa shabd (jo kharokhar ek faarsee shabd aahe) to ghaD pasoon jhaalaa mhaNaNe kaTheeN waTate.
BTW ghaD yaa dhaatu chaa arth kaay? dhaatu hee sa.nkalpanaa muLaat sa.nskrt madhalee aahe, tyaa muLe marathi teel saare dhaatu he muLaat sa.nskrt asale paahijet, aaNi sa.nskrt madhye taree ghaD asaa dhaatu asalyaache malaa aathawat naahee.
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Meera
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| | Wednesday, November 25, 1998 - 1:48 pm: |
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kanaDa rajaa pMZrIcaa
vaodaMnaaih naahI kLlaa AMt par yaacaa
"Kanada raja Pandharicha
veda.nahi nahi kaLala anta par yacha"
ase eka bhaktigeet tumachyapaiki kahi.na mahit asawe. Tyatlya "Kanada" hya pahilya shabdacha artha mala koNi sangu shakel ka?? ANi te bhaktigeet koNi lehile ahe tehi koNala mahit ahe ka? Khoop abhar.
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Shonoo
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| | Wednesday, November 25, 1998 - 3:04 pm: |
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There is another abhanga
kanada ha vitthalu karnataku
teNe maj lavijelA veDu
Does this suggest that somehow Vithoba was
related to kanadi speaking region may be ........
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Jaganbua
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| | Wednesday, November 25, 1998 - 6:11 pm: |
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naahee bahutek, kaanaDaa haa shabd bareech ma.NDaLee karnaaTak yaa sa.ndarbhaat asaawaa ase maantaat paN tase naahee ase aamhaalaa ekadaa hrdaynaath ma.ngeshkaraanee samajaawun saa.ngitale hote.
tyaachaa sa.mba.ndh 'naanaa prayatne haatee na yetaa vegaLee vegaLee naaTake daakhawaNaaraa' ashyaa viTThalaa shee aahe ase te mhaNale. aaNi tyaa.nee he mat baryaach bhaagawat sa.mpradaayaa chyaa widwaanaa.nshee charche a.ntee banawalele aahe ase hee te mhaNaale.
tyaa.nee saa.ngitalele saarech kaahee aataa malaa aaThawat naahee paN sawistar khulaasaa shodhNyaat ye.il
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Meera
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| | Wednesday, November 25, 1998 - 6:45 pm: |
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Shonoo ani Jaganbua,
Tumha doghankade asaleli mahiti pahun/aikun mala kharech tumchyabaddal adar watala.
Pan, Jaganbua, tumhi purawalelya mahitiwarun ajunahi mala "Kanada"cha artha umajat nahi. (Ti kadachit majhya buddhichi mandata asel!) Tar tya shabdacha artha anakhi thoda spashta karaychi tasadi ghyal ka? Abhari ahe.
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Jaganbua
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| | Wednesday, November 25, 1998 - 7:00 pm: |
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meera,
kaanaDaa haa shabd umagaNyaas awaghaD yaa arthaaNe aalaa aahe ase mhaNataat. jase aai ne saa.ngitalele aiku aale naahee ase daakhawale tar aai oraDate 'kaanaDeet bolate kaay re mee, gaaDhawaa?' yaa waakkyaat kaanaDee he fakt parkyaa bhashe laa uddeshun naahee tar grhit durbodhate laa uddeshun suddhaa aahe.
majhyaa maahitee chyaa potaDee tun itkech baaher paDale. paN ithe barech jaaNkaar aahet, aaNi te suddhaa bhar ghaalteel ashee aashaa aahe, kaay barobar naa?
P.S. shighra kaawya sundar aahet haa.n tumchee!
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Jaganbua
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| | Wednesday, November 25, 1998 - 7:29 pm: |
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shonoo,
there is some reference to the karnatak province as we know of it today. In the ancient times some king in karnatak supposedly hijacked the vitthal murtee from pandharpur and set it up in his kingdom but had to return it for some reason or the other. I will talk to my granny in the long weekend and find out more details.
BTW the lines you mentioned should read
kaanaDaa wo viTThalu karnaaTaku
yeNe maj laawiyalaa vedhu
paa.NDura.ng kaa.ntee
diwya tej jhaLakatee
ratne keeL phaaktee prabhaa
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Kbipin
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| | Wednesday, November 25, 1998 - 7:40 pm: |
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Jaganbuaa & shonuu
Malaa vaat ta mee tuumhalaa Guruji & "Bai"
mhanaaylaa paheejay ...fantastic info.
Nahitar "Kaanada wo viTThalu " mhantla kee
aamchyaa saarkhay loka phakta
Hrudaynath Mangeshkar--> Asha Bhosle
..evdhach olakhnaar !!
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Meera
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| | Wednesday, November 25, 1998 - 8:53 pm: |
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Jaganbua, dhanya mi jhale apulya mahitine
dnyanaganget budi marun yawe te.n ritine!
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shighrakavya-prasha.nsa kelit, nond abharachi
bolawita dhani, janate, pan ase wegalachi!
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Jaganbua
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| | Friday, November 27, 1998 - 5:34 pm: |
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ghaT yaa dhaatu passon kaal nirdeshak anek shabd nirmaaN jhaale aahet. udaaharNaarth ghaTit, ghaTikaa, ghaTanaa ityaadee. aaNi ghaTane waroon ghaDaNe aale ase malaa waaTate. aataa ghaT haa dhaatu muLaat eka mrttikaa paatraache naam aahe. aaNi hech mrttikaa paatra kaaLaache moj maap gheNyaa karataa waaparale jaaee. tevhaa vareel vyutpatti sayuktik waaTate.
paN tirake lihilele warache saare shabd barech praacheen aahet. ghaDyaaL tasa nawaa shabd aahe. gaathaa saptshatee, jnyaneshwaree madhye wagaire disat naahee. yaa ulaT arab khagol shaastrajnya barech weLaa yaa ya.ntraa chaa ullekh karataat. tevhaa ghaDyaaL che mooL san.skrt kaa faarsee he punhaa test match saarkhe anirNitach.
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Meera
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| | Saturday, November 28, 1998 - 3:42 am: |
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Chinchebaddal "GaabhuL" ase wisheshaN waparNyat yete. "GaabhooL" chincha mhaNaje kashi chincha? aNi Wyutpatti??)
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Mahavirk
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| | Monday, November 30, 1998 - 3:51 pm: |
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gabhuL chi.nchela aaNakhi ek pratishabda:
gaarshel chi.ncha.
kasa zakkas shabda aahe ki naahi?
aata mazya Nov-24 chya posting vishayi (Ref: scroll up):
"para" hya shabdacha artha kuNich saa.ngu shakale naahi? ki visaralaat saa.ngaayalaa??
"para" mhaNaje kapaaL.
Mahavir.
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Jaganbua
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| | Monday, November 30, 1998 - 6:55 pm: |
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perfect nashik chaa shabd aahe gaarshel mhaNaje. tisree chauthee madhye pahile daat paDalelyaa mulaalaa botraa mhaNaayche te aaThawate kaa?
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Meera
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| | Monday, November 30, 1998 - 9:08 pm: |
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MhaNa tila gabhuL, mhaNa tila gaarshel
tashi chincha chokhun majhe man harshel!
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Meera
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| | Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 3:26 pm: |
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"GumAn" hyA shabdAchA achook artha kAy? (ANi vyutpatti?
Abhar.
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Mahavirk
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| | Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 3:50 pm: |
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Meera,
gumAn mhanaje "gupchup". kAhihi takrAr na karata, ki.nva "nimuTpaNe". ha boli bhasetla shabda aahe. "deshi" ya vibhAgAt moDato.
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Meera
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| | Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 6:30 pm: |
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(khAli lihilele wAchatA yeNyAkaratA "shivaji01 Fonts"chi jaruri Ahe.)
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"=" *yaa ekaxarI Xabdalaa saMskRtmaQao inadana daona Aqa- Aahot.
.........[cCa
.........Xa=\kr
"Ha" *yaa ekaxarI XabdalaahI inadana daona Aqa- Aahot.
.........gaayak
.........baOla
Aaho kI naahI gammat?
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Mahavirk
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| | Friday, December 04, 1998 - 6:55 am: |
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kbipin:
"=" he akshar ANakhi ek sundar shabdAt yete... parAnd.nmukh. "havvyAs nasalelA". e.g.
"prasiddhi parAnd.nmukh" mhanje prasiddhi cha havvyAs nasalelA.
Shonoo, I recall your "rule", but its not a thumb rule. "Dnyaneshwari" madhe suddhA hA "rule" jasAchyA tasA wAparalelA nAhi. It is just "shabdAche shewaTache akshar dirgha asAwe" like rule, but not necessarily to be followed every time.
mahavir.
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Mahavirk
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| | Friday, December 04, 1998 - 6:52 am: |
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shonoo:
krush mhaNaje "slim" navhe! krush mhaNaje "haDakuLit". "slim" can be graceful.
(e.g.: sonali be.ndre "slim" Ahe, pun pallavi joshi "krush" aahe.)
mahavir.
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Meera
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| | Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 5:00 pm: |
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MahAvir,
"7:50AM" chya tumachyA "chiththi"baddal AbhAr.
AtA "khawis" hya shabdAchA nemkA artha malA koN sAngu shakel?? (ashA kititari shabdAnche artha ApalyAlA fakta moghampaNe mAhit asatAt.)
AbhAr.
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Kirantorvi
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| | Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 5:04 pm: |
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Meera,
"Khawis" ha shabdAla kahi artha nahi. MAzyA mAhitipramane to ek bhutacha prakar ahe. Jashi "Hadal" tasa "Khawis"...
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Kbipin
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| | Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 5:22 pm: |
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A stupid question :
Aaplyaa barakhadee madhay "Ka","Kha","Gha"
chyaa shevtee "Gnaa" asa akshar aahay . Tay
kuthay vaapartaat ?? the only word I can think
of is "Vaangmayeen " ..I know it appears
in Ganpatichee aartee somewhere ..either
"sukhakarta dukha..." or "ghaalee lotaangan"
or the shevtacha "Om Yadnyayn.."
aathavta kaa kuunaalaa ??
(Tasach "Cha","Cha","Ja","Zha" chaa shevtchaa shabda )
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Shonoo
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| | Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 6:07 pm: |
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Bipin :
All words like 'ka.nkaN', ga.ngaa, ana.ng
are "supposed" to be wriyen with the '.nga' that you mentioned.
Each of the vowels in the 'ka', 'cha', 'Ta','ta'
and 'pa' varga are supposed to use the last vowel
in that group, to denote the 'anuswar'.
I cant recollect the exact terminology of this
rule right now.( I'm will have to return my
school leaving certificate from PTV <g>)
I believe in the last 90-100 years people have
not followed this rule and every body writes
these words either with a 'na' or an anuswar
on top. If you read old hindi books ( I can think
of tulasidaas right now) you will see the correct usage of these vowels.
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Shonoo
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| | Friday, December 04, 1998 - 2:50 pm: |
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mala vataTe ki 'krush' ya shabdache 'skinny' ase
connotation hallichyaa kaLaataLe asaave.
Kalidasacha yaksh, sakhi viraha ne krush zalya
muLe tyaachyaa haataatale ratna ka.nkaN gaLun
paar koparaa paryant gele hote, tenvaa
to kaahi nakkich hadkuLaa nasel zaalaa .
malaa vaaTate ki Borkaraa.nchya bhaashaantaraa adhe krush asaach shabd aahe. nakki aathavat
naahi.
But I agree with Mahavir that slim is more
positive and krush somehow has an 'anorexic'
connotation.
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Mahavirk
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| | Saturday, December 05, 1998 - 6:54 am: |
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gAra.mbi hya shabdAcha artha kuNAlA mAhit Ahe ka?
(REF: "gAra.mbicha bAppu" he Vasant Kanitkar likhit Kashinath Ghenekar yA.nchi ajarAmar bhoomikA asalele nATak.)
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Mahavirk
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| | Saturday, December 05, 1998 - 9:17 am: |
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BTW, "gAra.mbicha bApu" he sri. nA. pe.ndase yanche aahe, ki vasant kaniTkar yA.nche ???
I got confused ...
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Swati2
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| | Saturday, December 05, 1998 - 1:35 pm: |
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mahavirk
garambi he kokanatil gavache naav ya sadarbhane
natakat yete.
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Parshuram
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| | Monday, December 14, 1998 - 5:50 pm: |
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manDaLee,
kondaN, kaivalya, gamya
hyA shabdA.nche arth havet
aabhar
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Shonoo
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| | Monday, December 14, 1998 - 5:58 pm: |
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Are Parshurama :
A-gamya mhaNje aadhi sangitale na, fluid
mechanics, thermodynamics vagaire - mhanje
na kaLNAre vishay. mag gamya mhaNje samajAyalA
sope, kinva ekhadyala already mahit aslele vishay etc.
kondaN mhaNje hira kinva itar ratne yanchya
bhovati asalela sonyacha bhag ( The setting
which holds the stone in place).
kaivalya mhaNje pharach deep philosophical shabd
aahe. malahi nakki arth sangata yeNar naahi. paN
dnyaneshwarit vaparla aahe. nakki arth tyaat
baghun sangen.
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Jaganbua
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| | Monday, December 14, 1998 - 7:33 pm: |
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kewal mhaNaje in essence. kaiwalya mhaNaje shabdash: essential, haa shabd jarooree yaa arthaane na pahaataa moolataa: yaa arthaane ghyaawaa. aataa yogee ma.NDaLee haa shabd khaalil arthaane waapartaat
yaa sa.mpoorNa wishwaachee wyawasthaa ekaa mool tatwaa war aadhaarit asate. yaa tatwaa shee ekroop asaNyaachee awasthaa mhaNaje kaiwalya. Being in state of resonance with the cosmos.
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Parshuram
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| | Monday, December 14, 1998 - 9:49 pm: |
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Shonoo/Jaganbua,
aaplya uttarA-baddal satwar AbhAr...Shonoo hyA.nnee punhA ekDA agamya dwAre ujaLNee karoon Amchee vidvatta aamhAlA gamyA kelyA-baddal dviwAr AbhAr.
Taree, "kaivalya" baddal sha.nkA nirsan zAle nAhee....hyA prashNAchee vyutpattee khAleel oLeet sApDel...kripyA kAy to soksh moksh lAvNe...jamlyAs arth sA.ngNe...
kaivalyAchyA chA.nNyAlA bhukelA chakor
chandra vhA ho pA.nDura.ngA man karA thor...
AbhAr
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Shonoo
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| | Monday, December 14, 1998 - 11:25 pm: |
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Parshuram :
The full words of this song are on this site.
http://chandra.astro.indiana.edu/isongs/marathi/mindex.html
kavine swata:chi tulana chakor pakshyAshi keli aahe ani to mhanto ki panduranga ne chandra houn mazyavar hya 'chandanyacha' varshav karaava -arthat kavila kaivalya prat pochavaave .
kinva asech kahitari :-)
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Shonoo
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| | Tuesday, December 15, 1998 - 6:05 pm: |
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laTpaT laTpaT tuza chAlaNa moTHyA nakharyAcha
yA gANyAt 'saguN gahinA' ase shabd aahet.
yateel 'gahinA' mhaNje kAy ?
yA gANyA che shabd suddha varil site varati aahet.
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Aparna_m
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| | Tuesday, December 15, 1998 - 9:22 pm: |
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Shonoo
malA wAtate ithe 'gahinA' mhaNje 'dAginA'(Hindi shabda - gahanA )ha artha abhipret asAwA.
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Mahavirk
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| | Wednesday, December 16, 1998 - 12:31 pm: |
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kaivalya vishayi:
kaivalya hya shabdAchA ANakhi ek artha Ahe "nirbheL/swachcha".
malA vaTate kaivalya "kevaL" hya visheshaNApAsoon Ala Ahe.
Any takers?
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Meera
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| | Wednesday, December 16, 1998 - 2:45 pm: |
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"kaivalya" hya shabdAchA "nirbheL/swachchha" hA ek artha jawaLjawaL agadi barobar Ahe. "kaivalya"cha to artha achookpaNe "ekAkipaNA, poorNa alagpaNa,swatantra wyaktitwa" asA Ahe.
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Meera
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| | Tuesday, January 05, 1999 - 12:16 am: |
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"gumphA" ANi "guhA" he shabda samAnArthi Ahet ki "gumphA" hyA shabdAchA artha thoDAsA wegaLa Ahe? UdAharaNArtha "sin.ha guhet rahato" ase ApaN mhaNato, pAN "sin.ha gumphet rahAto" ase koNi mhaTalyAche/lihilyAche nidAn AThawat nAhi.
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Mahavirk
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| | Friday, January 08, 1999 - 1:12 pm: |
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Meera:
"gumphA" ANi "guhA" he donhi samAnArthee shabdA Ahet. paN, tyA.ncha vyavahArAt upayog karatA.nnA sukshma farak disato.
"gumphA" nehami "manushya" prAnyA.nshi sambandhit wAparatAt, tar "guhA" sagaLyan.sAThi wAparatA yeto.
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Meera (Meera)
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| | Friday, January 08, 1999 - 11:49 pm: |
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AbhAr, Mahavir.
TyA don shabdam.madhe tumhi lihilet tasA thoDAsA kahitari sukshma farak Ahe ashi mAjhihi ek kalpanA hoti paN malA khAtri navati. ("GumphA" hA shabda
maLA wAtate Sanskrutmadhoon MarAthit AlelA nAhi; ANi tyAche roop FArsi-dekhil disat nAhi.Tenwa tyA shabdAchyA wyutpattibaddal thoDese kutuhal Ahech.)
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