bb chi kalpana mast aahe. sagalya mahit asalelya/nasalelya goshti vachayala chaan vatatahet.
mal krushna parashuramachya bhetichi ek katha BR chopranchya mahabharatat pahilyachi athavate. krushna, balaram & sudama sandipani rushinchyakadun shikshan sampavun parat nighanyachya veles krushnala balaram nighanyavishayak vicharato tenva krushna sangato mala 'ithe parashuram yenar aahet ani tyana bhetayache aahe.'(dau tanik pratiksha karana avashyak hai...' vagaire dialog athavale mala ekadam.:)) tenva balaramala ashcharya vatate. ani kahi velane parashuram sandipaninchya barobar tithe yetat. te krushnala shubhechchha deun sudarshan chakra detat. sudarshan chakra detana ka dile yache je karan sangatat te mala athavat nahiye.:(
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Hmmm, ajun kuNala mahit astil tyanchya bhetiche details tar krupaya liha.
sagaLe mahabharat aatopalyawar (aNi ajunahi kahi), shewaTi krushna ekada araNyat eka zaDakhali pahuDala hota. eka hariNacha pathlag karit aslelya eka pardhyane (jara kaboo?) srikrushNala hariN samajun baaN marala. to nemaka tyachya taLpayat gela. krushNache urwarit sharir vajrasarakhe kathiN hote (tyachi ek vegaLi goshTa aahe) aNi itar kuthehi tyala kahihi zale nasate. krushna marat astanna tya pardhyane yewun kshama magitali. krushNane tyala saangitale ki tyane kshama magawayache kahich karaN nahi karan gelya janmi to wanarraj wali astanna, asech eka zaDamage lapun krushNane (ram rupat) tyachi hatya keli hoti ...
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complicated relationshipschi ajun ek katha:
site paryant lanket jemvha nirop pohochavayacha hota, temvha hanumanashivay parakrami angad yachehi naav pudhe aale hote. paN jambuwantane tyala veTo karat mhanTale ki to jar tithe gela tar parat yeNar naahi. tyane ase ka mhanTale?
Flashback: mandodari hi manDor yethe vadhleli. tyanchya rajyatil eka munipasun tila diwas rahile aNi tyadarmyan titche ravaNashi lagna zale. tila mahit hote ki ravaNachya vikathasyane garbhapat hoto. tine tyacha fayada karun ghyayache tharwile wa ravaNala mothyane hasun dakhviNyas sangitale. bhiti waTel ase sangun ti aadhich eka zuDupat lapun basali hoti. tine aapala garbha tya zaditach thewun dila. nantar jemvha wali tethun jaat hota temvha tyala tethe ek balak disale. waline tyala ghari newun vadhawale. toch angad. jar to lankela gela asata tar mandodarine tyala oLakhale asate aNi mohpashat aDkun to parat yewu shakala nasata.
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paN angad ha wanar hota na?
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Ashiq: Krishnacha mrutyu hee katha jara vistarat.....
Arthaat he je katha me sangto aahe ti me mahabharatachya ekaa pustakat vachaleli/aikivatli aahe.
Krishnacha Mama 'Kansa' hyacha vaadh krushnane baal/tarun vayat kelaa hee kathaa sarvanna mahit aahe. Tyacha sud ghenyaa saathi 'kansa' pudhcha janma arjunachya mulachya rupaat mhanje 'abhimanyu' aasa ghetlaa. Krishna la hey aadhi pasun mahit hote aani mhanun tyaane muddam rukminelaa chakraview kase todayche tevdhe faqta sangitle pun tyatun parat baher kase yayche hey nahi snagitle. Jevah chakraviewachi ti katha Krishna rukminelaa snagat aasto tevha ti garodar aaste aani tichya potaat vadhnara 'abhimanyu' krishnachi ti katha aikun 'hummmm' asa humkaar sodaat aasto. Kurushektrat jyaa veli chakraview todnyachi garaj bhaste tevha pandav tithe upasthit nastaat karan krishnanech tase muddam rachlele aaste. Tya veli Krishna Abhimanyu laa teh chakraview todnyas pathavto. Abhimanyu cha vadh honar hey tyaala mahit aste pun tyaat don 'gudh' matitarthaa laplele aastaat. Ek ter Krishnache aajun sampurna karyaa sampalele naste tyaamule hyaa janmi sudhaa abhimanyu tyacha tyaa veli vadh karu shakat nasto...dusre mhanje, kauravanni ektyaa abhimanyulaa gherun nih-shashtra marle ki tyanchyaver toh aarop karta yeil vaaa.....'yudhaat sagle maaf aaste' hey bashyaa pandavanna patvun deta yeil mhanun tyaane tase kele. Abhimanyu cha vadh zalyavar 'Kansa' punhaa eka pardhyachya rupaat janmala yeto aani Krishnala tyacha baan lagun krishnacha toh avtaar sampushtaat yeto....:)
|| eeti adhyaay Krishnarpanastu ||
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YogiBear
Ek mothich chuk varil kathet
(bahudhaa anavadhaanani zaleli...)
'Abhimanyu' ha rukminicha navhe tar ARJUN-SUBHADRECHA Mulga. Rukmini hi Krushnachi Patni.. Gairsamaj hovu naye mhanoon ha patra-prapanch
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Are Yogibear, tu sangitaleli gosht me kuthalyahi mahabharatamadhe vachalyache mala aathavat nahi Ani me Bhandarakarani publish kelele Mahabharat pun vachalele ahey.
Pandavana Chakraviewchyaveli door nenyacha plan Krushnacha nasoon Dronacharyancha hota. Kharya arthane Arjun ha ekatach Pandav chakraviewcha bhed karoo shakat hota. Baki pandavanchya pakshamadhe Krushna ani Satyaki yaanach fakt he dhyaan hote. Arthaat Arjun kuthe dusrikade guntla ki Krushnahi tikdech asanaar. Arjunala guntvanyachi kaamgiri koni ghetali te mala aathavat nahi pun te barech raaje hote. Mhanje barechse bhau hote je ekatra rajya karat asata. Sa varoon kahi naav hote. Satyakilahi asach kuthe tari guntvale. Tyamule abhimanyu ha ekach option pandavankade uarala hota.
Tasech mala hehi vachalyache aatahvate ki Abhimanyu ha Krushnacha atishay ladka hota.
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arjunala guntavNyachi kaamgiri 'Sanshaptak' navachya atishay parakrami Yodhdhyankade sopavleli hoti aani satyaki ha Arjunachya rathachya ujavyaa chaakache samrakshana karnya sathi hota. Mhanje Arjun, Krishna aani Satyaki ase tighehi tithe adakale.
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Catchme: thx re...majhya ekdaam lakshyat nahi aali ti chuk....thx again for correcting.
Asami: mala jee katha mahit hoti ti me vadhavli....pudhe nakki kay ghadle teh matra var (chukun gelo ter) nakki Shree Krishnala vicharun sangin ;)
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Hummmmm :o))
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Are yogi, mazya mahitipramane to pardhi Vananar Raaj Vaalicha punarjanma hota, Kansacha nahi. Vaaline martana Raamala shaap dilela ki jasa tu lappon mazyavar halla kelas tasach tuzahi vadh hoil pudhachya avataramadhe. Atta mala he mahit nahi ki Valila kase kalale ki pudhachya avatarabaddal te !!!
Ase barechse confusing dakhale puranamadhe sapadatat. Jase ki Anand Ramayan mhanon ek Ramayanachi avrutti ahey tyat asa lihilaay ki Ravanala NaradMuni yaancha sanwaad suru hotaa. Ravanane tyana etar asur rajanbaddal vicharale tenva Naradani sangitale ki te swargamadhe sukhane nandat ahet. Te aikoon Ravanala ascharya vatale ki Asoor asaoon swargamadhe kase ? Tenva NAradani asa sangiatale ki mrutyunantar moksha milnaycha hamkhaas upay mhanje ShriVishunchya hatoon marane. Ani he asoor raaje ase mele mhanon swargamadhe gele.
Te aikoon Ravanala pun teech abhilasha zali ni tyane mhaon Siteche haran kele ki tyayoge amachya haati aapala mrutyu hoil.
Atta he vachoon meehi teenTaad uadalo hoto.
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asami, mazya mahiti pramane .. ravanane site che haran kele aani jeva indrajeet aadi ravan putrancha vadh hovun ravan ekata urala tevha ramane tyala sharan yenyacha ek avadhi dila techa tyala kalun chukale hote ki aapan ramala haravu shaknar nahi aahe aani maru hi shaknar nahi karan to vishanu aahe pan tyachya hatun maran aale tar aapalyala moksha milel mhanun shevatu tyane oupcharikata mhanun yuddha chaloo thevale va to ramachya hatun mela aani bahuda maratana tyane ramala praNam kela ani sri ram ase mhanun mela.. aani swargat gela..
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pan tasahi ravan ha muLat asur navata.
Shree vishnuche dwar pal Jay aani Vijay yaani ekada sanatkumarana vishnuchya darbarat janyas manai keli hoti aani mhanun tyana bhutalavar janma ghenyacha shap milala hota. tyani kshama magitalyavar 'tyani jar vishnushi vair kele tar 3 janma aani bhakti keli tar 7 janma' asa u:shap pan tya munini dila hota. teva lavakarat lavakar swargat parat yenyasathi tya doghani vair patkarale aani 'kans-shishupal', 'hiranyakashyapu-hiranyaksh' aani 'ravan-kumbhakarna' asha 3 janmat tyani (tya tya velachya avataratalya )bhagwan vishnushi vair patkarale.
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Milinda, Barobar agadi barobar
mi hi hich katha aikali hoti.
Asami, tuzi 'Story' aikun mi teen taad naahi tari taad did taad udalo :-)
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milind lai khas..
ha ha ha :) catchme.. he taad kay asata buva?
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aaila pan he bhari aahe .. mhanaje tya shapa mule aani u:shapa mule vishanu lakiti aavatar ghyave lagale..
varaha, narasimha, ram aani krishana.. are 4 avatar ...
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bagh ki shaap koni dila ni avtaar konala ghyayala lagle !!! :o)
Sameer are tya Anand Ramayanamadhe asha baryach suras veglyach katha ahet. Jase ki aapana saglyana mahit ahey ki Sitene bhumichya potamadhe udi ghetali. Tar tyachya pudhe ase lihilele tyat ki tyamukle Raam atishay krodhit zala ani tyane bhumila dhamkavale tenva bhumine Seeta tyala parat dili ani upchaar mhanon Sitecha ek ansha aapalya potamadhe ghetala.
Tyat vachalelya saglyach goshti asha veglyach hotya. Mala jar te pustak deshatoon ethe aanata ale tar me tya ethe lihin. barr asahi ahey ki te pustak barach jaad ahey tyamule agadi thapebajihi ahi asahi mhanta yet nahi.
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maage mi lihile hote ki sita ravaNala haslyamuLe ranaNane nantar sitela paLwile. paN tyachi buddhi ashi bhrashTa hoNyamage naradacha haat hota:
ekada ravaNane sarva grahanna pakDale hote aNi tyanna aapalya palangachya (tyachya equivalent) eka payakhali dabun thevale hote. narad ekada tethe pochala aaNi pahile ki shani sakat sarva graha palathe paDale aahet. tyane shanila aaplya typical swrata mhaNtal ki "he kaay, saDesaatiwale tumhi aNi tumchich ashi dasha?"
yawar shanine uttar dile ki mala palthyacha saraL kar aNi mag paha kaay hote te.
ravaN paratlyawar naradane tyala mhaNtale ki shatruchya pathiwar var karaNe he yudhhanitila dharun nhave. tyache mhaNane aikun ravaNane tyanna saraL kele. shani chi tyachywar drushTi paDali aaNi ravanachi buddhi bhrashTa zali
(incidently, ravaN ha dash granthi brahmaN hota, tyane shivstutipar rachlele kavya utkrushtha aahe).
(angad wanar nhavata. tyala fakt waline vadhawile hote).
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Chakrawuha vishayi thodese, Chakrawuha todanyasathi abhimanu janar ani tyache charhi kaka tyachya magun jaun tyala baher padayala madat karnar ase tharle hote. Pan jaydratha ne pandawancha marg rokhala, karan jayadrathala war milala hota(Konakadun te aathawat nahi) ki ek divas to arjun sodun itar char pandawana parabhut karu shakel. tya waramule pandaw jayadratha pudhe nishprabh houn abhimanyuchya madatila jau shakale nahit.
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Tee story ashi ahey ki Arjunane kuthalya tari udhhat Jayadrathacha parabhav kela hota. Tyamule santaplelya Jayadrathane Shankaracha jap karoon ha var ghetala hota.
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nahi nahi....ti katha ashi aahe....
panDav vanavasat asatana jayadrathane Droupadicha upamard kela (tila kahi tari bolala asel) tyane santapun draupadine bhimala ha prakar sangitala. bhimale jayadrathala pakaDun tyache mastak bhadarale (Takkal kele). ha apamaan zalyavar tyacha sooD gheNyasaThi jayadrathane tap kele aaNi panDavancha ekada tari parabhav karata yawa asa var magitala. paN var asa miLala ki Arjun vagaLata itar char panDavancha ekada yuddhat parabhav karu shakel.
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Zakki..
New Jersey hun Maha Bharatachya cassettes aanun paahilyaat vaatate ? :-) :-)
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kahI frk naahI pDt kuzUnahI ToPsa AaNalyaa trI. sagaL\yaa ToPsa maQao hoca Aaho.
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aaj kay puran katha sampalya vatata?
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Sagle puranaat gele aastil kathaa gola karaylaa...;)
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Nandi chya garvaharanachi katha konala mahit ahe ka?
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sang na !!
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mahit aahe pan neat aathvat nahiye :p
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ag mag jevadhi yetey tevadhi lihi na?
shailesh tula mahit asli tar tu lihi.
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Mahabharatat Mahatma vidhur ha prayetksha dharmaraj hota.. toch jyacha yudhisthir putra hota.. tar katha ashi aahe..
purvi mahatma mandavi navache thor rushi hote.. te jangalat tap karat basale hote.. tithe eka rajache shipayi chorachya shodhat firat hote.. choranni choralela maal tya mandavi rushinchya ashramat takun te palun gele.. rajachya shipayanni rushinnach chor samavajun dharun nele aani suli dile.. tar mahatma mandavinchya tapo samarthyane te suli chya tokavar tap karat basale.. tevha rajane swa:ta yevun kshama magitali aani tyanna sodun dile.. tevha rushinni daiva gati samajavun na chidata nighun gele.. pan te swargat dharmarajakade gele va tyanni vicharale mi mazya smruti pramane kadhi kahi pap kelele nahi mag mala hi kshiksha ka milali tevha dharmaraj mhanala tumhi lahan pani fulpakharanchya shepati madhe kadya khupasat hote va tyanna tras det hote.. mhanun tya papache fal tumhala milale..
tevha maharshi mandavi krodhit zale va mhanale ki dharmapramane manavane 12 varsha khali kelele pap karma dharale jat nahit karan tyala dharma adharmache dnyan nasate.. tari tu mala shiksha dilis mhanun tula mi shap deto ki tu manav yonit prithvi lokavar eka kshudra stree chya poti janma gheshil va tithe tu dharma aani adharma yancha gunta sodavat sodavat ayushyabhar thakun jashil..
hya shapamule keval eka chukimule tyala vidhuracha janma ghyava lagala.. tari hi to sri krishna bhakta hota mhanun tyama mahatma mhanatat..
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Surekh Sameer.
Nandichya garwaharanachi katha mala athawat nahiye, fakta yevadhe sangu shakto ki, Nandi Shankaracha ganpramukh aslyane unmanta houn, kailasawar dusarya devache nav ghenyas majjaw karat hota. Tenva Narad munini prtyaksha Shankara kadun Vishnuchi stuti tyala aikawali.
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Sam
"Vidhur" nahi re "Vidur" :o) arthacha anarth hotoy.. ajun Gulti/anna public cha prabhav gelela disat nahi ;o)
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kay karnar dheed :) varsha madras la hoto na mhanun kadachit !!!
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Sathi
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