Shonoo
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| | Thursday, November 26, 1998 - 3:12 pm: | 
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Webster ductionary mhanate ki etymology ha shabd
greek etymon (the essential meaning of a word seen in its root ) ya shabda varun ala. Engaji madhe ha shabd sadharan paNe solavya shatakat vaparat ala.
parantu dictionary of word origins mhante ki
'post-classical grammarians use this in the sense"root from which a particular word was derived" as a result of which modern etymology- the study of etymons- deals with their history rather than their meaning.'
Hope this helps
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Meera
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| | Thursday, November 26, 1998 - 7:28 pm: |
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Shonoo,
Tumchya mahitipoorna "posting"baddal abhar.
Ani jatajata asehi athawale ki Ingraji "cat" aNi Marathi "kutra" hya don shabdanche wyutpatti-kooL jase (naadsaamyatenusaar) ughadpaNe ekach asalyache etymologist Maloji.ni (etymology -> iti Maloji) lihun thewale ahe tasech Greek "etymon" aNi Sanskrut "atman" hya don shabdanchehi kooL ekach ahe! "Etymon" mhanaje shabdacha "atma"!
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Meera
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| | Wednesday, December 02, 1998 - 7:56 pm: |
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EkmekAnshi nAte asalelyA kAhi Ingraji ANi Sanskrit/MarAthi shabdAnchyA jodyA mi khAli lihite. TumchyApaiki kAhijaNAnA tya jodyA manoranjak wAtatil ashi AshA Ahe.
Heart............Hrud
Dental...........Danta/Dantya
Brow.............Bhru
Nose.............NAsikA
Navel............NAbhi
Pedal............Pad
Gullet/Gullible..Gala/GaLA
Ocular...........Aksha
Osteo(path)....Asthi
Youth............Yuwan
Virile/Virtue....Vir/Virya
Estro(gen).......Stri
Genes....|.......Jananam/Janani
Gender...|
General..|
Generate|
Gent......|
Gentle....|
Man..............Manu/Manuj
Mind/Mental.....Manas
Son..............Soonu
Daughter........Duhitru
Brother..........Bhratru
Sister...........Svasru
Father...........Pitru
Morther..........Matru
Widow...........Widhawa
Vulgar...........Varga
You..............Yushmad/Yooyam
Am...............Asmi
Me...............May/Mahyam
We...............Wayam
Is................As
That.............Tat
No/Nil/Null|.....Na
Annihilate.|
End..............Anta
Medium/Mid-...Madhya/Madhyam
Un-..............An-
Pro-.............Pra-
Over/Up........Upari
Fore-............Puras-
Inter-.|.........Antar-/Adhas-
Intro-.|
Under..|
Syn-/Sym-........Sam
(e.g., Synthesis
and Symmetry)
Meter/Measure....Miti
Hour/Year........HorA
Day..............Diwas
Path.............Patha
Vest.............Vastra
Tree.............Taru
Star.............TArA
Cottage.........Kuti
Door.............DwAr/DAr
Name........|....NAma
Nomenclature|
Sugar............SharkarA/SAkhar
Board............Bardhak
Terra-.....|.....DharA
Terrace....|
Territory..|
Terrestrial|
Axis.............Aksha
Center/Centre..Kendra
Sign.............Chinha
Rite.............Riti/Rit
Band/Bind/Bundle.Bandha
Same.............Sama
Dexter...|.......DakshiN
Dexterity|
Regal/Royal/Reign..RAjan
Mortal...........Martya
White............Shweta
Lazy.............Alasya/ALas
Divine...........Divya
Deity............Devata/Dev
New..............Nava
Better...........Bhadra
Chalk............Kakkhati/Khadu
Candy............Khand (Sharkara-khand)
Cock.............Kukkuta
Cuckoo...........Kokil/KokiL
Mouse............Mooshak
Cow..............Go/GAy
Serpent..........Sarpa/SAp
Yoke.............Yuga/Yuj
Sit/Seat.........Sad
Vomit............Vama
Through/Thorough....Tarati/Tru
Eat..............Ad
Wit/Wise.........Vid (Vidya)
Serve............Sev (Seva)
Ignite...........Agni
Merge............Masja
Sweat............Svid
Stay....|........Stha
State...|
Status..|
Station.|
Static..|
Stature.|
Statute.|
Know/Gnostic.....Dnya (Dnyan)
Saint............Santa
Thirst...........TrushA
School...........ShAlA
Mad..............Methati
Naked............Nagna
Tame.............Dam
Two/Dual/Double..Dwi
Three............Tri
Quarter..........Chatur
Penta(gon).......Panch
Punch............Panch
Six..............Shat
Seven............Sapta
Eight............Ashta
Nine.............Nava
Deci(mal)........Dasha
Bi(nary).........BA(vis)
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Jaganbua
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| | Thursday, November 26, 1998 - 7:32 pm: |
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malaa waTate kee samaahaar dwa.ndwa yaa samaasaatun nirmaN jhaalele shabd he purNa marathi asataat, sa.nskrtodbhaw naahee. tyaa.nche kuL shodhaNe mhaNaje mahaan majaa asel.
udaaharaNaarth:
samaansumaan
kaapaDchopaD
gureDhore
ityaadee ityaadee
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Mahavirk
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| | Friday, November 27, 1998 - 12:54 pm: |
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I agree with jagangua.
samaahaat dva.ndva samaas che shabda purNa marathi asataat. pun, he shabda "tadbhav" nasoon "deshi" ya vibhaagaat modataat.
Ata "ghaDi" wishayi...(sorry for a late reply).
"dhaatu" hi sa.ndnya sanskrut madhoon aali, pun yaacha artha sagLe dhaatu sanskut asataat ase naahi. "ghaD" hya dhaatu pasoon "ghaDaNe" he kriyaapad hote. ani, ya kriyapadapasoon "ghaDi" ha shabda (dhaatusaadhit ?) aalaa.
mahavir.
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Meera
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| | Friday, November 27, 1998 - 5:27 pm: |
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Mahavir,
Jaganbua.npramanech tumhalahi kharich chhan mahiti asalyache disate.
Pan wyutpatti.nbaddalche majhe ek kharekhure kutuhal mi ithe prakat karate te ase ki kontyahi shabdache mooL nakki kashat ahe he kon chhatithokpane sangu shakel? Amuk eka shabdache mooL amuk ek asawe ashi jari jawaljawal shambhar takke khatri apana sarwana patali tari shewati to andajach mhanawa lagel. Fakta jar koni "969 warshe jagalelya "Methuselah"ne kuthale shabda itihasat haLuhaLu kase badalat gele hyachi paddhatshir nond karun thewali asati tarach tya mahitiwar apalyala shambhar takke wishwas thewata ala asata. Aitihasik wangmayacha paddhatshir abhyas karun shabda haLuhaLu kase badalat gele he koNi pahayche mhatale tar tyakarata purese wangmaya nidan Marathit upalabdha nasawe ase mala waTate.
Warcha jo wichar majhya manat pushkaL diwas ahe to mi sahaj war lihila. Tarihi mala vyutpatti.nbaddal khoop jidnyasa watate hehi khare.
Kahi diwas.npoorwi ek tarka majhya manat ala to asa: Ingrajitalya "Center" kinwa "Centre" hya shabdache Sanskrutmadhalya "Kendra" shabdashi nate disate. Ingrajit "C"cha uchhar "Sa" ani "Ka" asha donhi tarha.ni hoto. Poorwichya kaLi junya Ingrajitlya "Centre"cha uchhar "Kentra" asa hot asane SHAKYA ahe. Te tase kharokharach asale tar mag "Kentra" ani "Kendra" hya shabda.nmadhale samya ughad disate.(Ingrajimadhe ani Sanskritmadhe ekmekanshi nate asalele arthat anakhi barech shabda tadnya.na disatatach.)
(Wyutpatti karite majhi gunga mati!)
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Meera
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| | Tuesday, December 01, 1998 - 10:06 pm: |
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Bua Baji Rao Ji jiwa ji ranjawiti birude
wishadikaraNe tyancyha adnyan majhe wiru de!
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Meera
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| | Wednesday, December 02, 1998 - 4:20 pm: |
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Shonoo aNi Jaganbua,
Tumhi dogha.ni lihileli sundar mahiti wachun majhe man anandit jhale. Khoop abhar.
Dnyaneshwaritalya "KeeL" shabdachya sandarbhane tar mi dhanya jhale. ANi majhya dokyat asa prakashahi padala ki "KeeL" ha shabda arthat "Keel" hya Sanskrut shabdache apabhrashta roop ahe. Sanskrut "Keel" mhaNaje "Jyota" kinwa "Prakashawalaya/PrabhamandaLa" kinwa "Teja". Shishupalawadhat ek pankti ahe ti (Dewanagari lipit) ashi:
baaNavadnamauddIip iBayao jagat: sakIlaimava saUya-maNDlama\
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Parshuram
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| | Wednesday, December 02, 1998 - 5:16 pm: |
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namskAr manDaLee,
aaplya sarwA.nche vareel sambhAshaN vAchoon kharach dhanya jhAlo. ekA pekshA ek raseek manDaLee aahe ithe.mAze pAool thoDe usheerA vaL-lyabaddal mala laaj vaaTte.khAleel namood shabdA.nche arth mala kuNee sA.ngoo shakel ka?
birude,apbhrashT,ant:chakshu,vyutpatti
aabhAree aahe,
Jaganbua,hey sambhAshaN chaloo kelyA-baddal aaple khAjgee aabhAr
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Shonoo
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| | Wednesday, December 02, 1998 - 6:03 pm: |
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birude mhaNje naavaa pudhe aadaraarthii padvyaa
laavtaat tyaa. e.g. Pandit, ustad, shaaheer,
mahaamahopaadhyaay ityadi.
apbhrashT mhaNje ekhaadyaa mooL shabdache bolii bhaashet 'corrupt' zaalele roop.
jase Stewart elphinstan cha 'ishtoor phakda' zala
tase. kinva station che 'estation' athava 'Thesan' hote tase.
ant:chakshu mhaNje manache kinva atmyache DoLe
je jagaakaDe na baghataa , swata:kade baghtaat te. bhaarateey philosophy pramane manushya praaNyaalaa teen DoLe asataat. don baaherchyaa jagaakaDe paahaNyaa saathii aNii ek aat swata:kaDe paahaNyaa saathii.
vyutpatti ha shabd saadhaaraNpaNe etymplogy ya arthane vaparla jato. tya shabdachii vyutpatti kay te malaa nakkii mahiit nahii paN utpatti ( evolution ) varun to ala asaavaa asaa maazaa andaaj aahe.
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Parshuram
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| | Wednesday, December 02, 1998 - 9:27 pm: |
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Shonoo,
maazyA sha.nkeche nirsan kelyA baddal hArdik aabhAr.
Meera,
Tuzya ingrajee-marathi shaabdik joDyA nakkich majehsir aahet.
ek sha.nka, "six" la "shat" hA yogya shabd aahe kA?"shat" mhaNje "sha.mbhar" hot naahi kA?"shat" saaThee "sashT" barobar hou shakel kA? (Pls correct me if I am wrong,sorry,or was that in Sanskrit.I don't understand Sanskrit anyway)
Paresh
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Meera
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| | Wednesday, December 02, 1998 - 10:04 pm: |
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Parshuram:
"Six" hyA Ingraji shabdAchA SanskrutmadhalA jo jodidAr shabda "Shat" Ahe tyAchA uchchAr IngrajitalyA "Shut"sArkhAch Ahe. (HyA Sanskrit "Shat"pAsoon arthAt "Shadripu", "ShashTha" wagaire wagaire sAmAsik shabda tayAr hotAt.)
Aso. AtA hi "chiththi" mi "shut" karate!
Sanskrut, Ingraji aNi Marathi hyAnchi bhesaL karun majhe warache shewatche wakya lihAyache mhatale tar--
"Ataha imAm chiththimaham shut-karomi!"
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Rhul
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| | Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 1:00 am: |
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indoiryans basha sanskrut aahe. sanskrut hi basha engaaji la dakshin dravidian basaan peksha far javalchi aahe. tymule 1 te 10 akde mata pita he nave wa tyanche engragi pratishabd yat barech samya aahe. engraji news madhepolitical pandit, management guru shabda far waparat pan aahet. kuna kade sanskrut dhaturupawali asel ter tyat. dhatu,prat-tya,pad ,purush ani wachan chalwoun dakawale aahet.te jar milale ter shabdopatti atishay sopi houn jail.
utpatti (ugam) evolution ani ugam saman arthi nahit. arthat sarwat javalcha pratishabda aahe to. utpatti la Projection shabda (atun baher) hya arthane
jast yogya aahe ase watate.
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Jaganbua
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| | Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 1:41 am: |
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indo-aryan bhaashaa samuhaa madhye sanskrt aaNi latin moDat asalyaamuLe tyaa.nchyaatun nighaalelyaa bhaashaa.n madhye saadharmya asaNe swaabhaawik aahe.
paN he saadharmya management guru yaa saarakhyaa shabd prayogaa madhye nasun sanskrt wa latin dhatu.nchyaa samaanate madhye aahe. aaNi hech Meera ne post kelelyaa yaadee madhalyaa baryaach shabdaa.nwarun disoon yete.
guru, pa.NDit he shabd atishay aleekaDchyaa kaaLaat i.ngrajee madhye prawishT jhaalele aahet. bhaarataatlyaa i.ngrajee rajwaTeechaa pariNaam mhaNun, tyaa.nchaa bhaashaa saadharmya siddha karaNyaa saaThee upyog ho.u shakat naahee ase malaa waTate
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Rhul
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| | Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 2:51 am: |
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british raj, pandit, guru,he kuph vela engaji batmya made wapartat ethe yavadech manyache hote. tyacha sardhmya sidha karnyasathi dakala deta yenar nahi he manya aahe.
engraji shabda Navigation ha mul Navik Gati ya shabapasun upjala aahe ase mantat. mala watete ase kuph shabda sapadtil.
persia(iran attacha) che lok purvi sagale agni pujak hote. tyancha granth Zend Avesta dusra atarva Vedch aahe ase tadnya mantat.
afganistan manhe mulcha Up gan stan.makka manje mahakay(mahakay manje shivling) manhe. taj mahal manje tejo mahal manhe.kutub minar manje vishnu stambh. bay of bengal ani arbi manhe ganga sagar ani sindhu sagar.
shabdacha far odun tanun artha lavla jat aahe ase watate kay? mala watate he parampara kitpat yogya aahe. swa mat mandan ani par mat kandan karnayala kahi maryada astat. ki he rediscovery of india barobar aahe ase watate?
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Jaganbua
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| | Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 3:52 am: |
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naahee re baabaa,
majhyaa mate taree he taaj mahaal navhe tejo mahaalay waalee ma.NDaLee bhaya.nkar baadraayaNee sa.mba.ndh joDNyaat ustaad aahet.
arthaat afghanistan madhale kandaahaar he shahar aaNi tyaache gaandhaar he mahaabhaarat kaaleen naaw aahe ase mhaNane he jaraa chukun maakun taree paTwun ghetaa ye.il paN arbee samudra mhaNaje si.ndhu sagar hee bhaashaa shaastraa pekshaa hi.ndu raashtra waadaachyaa vaLaNaane jaaNaaree vyutpatti aahe he tar kuNee hee maanya karaayalaa harkat nasaawee.
aataa ekdaa gaaDee ne haa saa.ndhaa badalalaa kee mag kaay kuNee kaahee mhaNaa, aamhaalaa kaay, ho kee naahee?
tar kuNaachyaahee naam nirdeshan paddhati laa naawe na Thewataa aamhee fakt yewaDhech mhaNu kee aaplee charchaa shabd aaNi tyaa.nchyaa sayuktik aaNi vyutpatti shastraadhaarit ashaa arthaa wishayee bolaNe yewaDhyaatach bharpoor cha.nglee ra.ngate aahe. itar ra.ng misaLu deNyaachee wishesh garaj disat naahee, kaay ma.NDaLee?
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Mahavirk
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| | Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 5:41 am: |
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six hya ingraji shabdaacha artha sa.nskrut madhe shaT/shasTa asaa hoto, shat asaa naahi! "shat" mhaNaje "sha.mbhar"
e.g.:
"vayam pa.nchadasham shatam"
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Admin
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| | Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 5:57 am: |
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Mandali,
tumachi madat havi aahe !
He sambhashan mothe aslayne surwaticha
kahi bhag "archives" madhe takava mhanato.
Pan aaplya sagalyancha ha vyasanga jar nustach
tithe thevala tar kadachit kuna garjula hava
asalela shabda saapdnaar nahi mhanun tyachi
vargavari keli tar jast uttam.
Tar he vargvaari kashi karavi ya baddal kahi
suchana kelya tar far chaan hoeel.
(tumhi sambhashan chalu theva. vargavarreche aamhi
baghato pan kashi karnar yaabaddal tumache vichar
have hote ex. alphabetically or type of words or
by meaning?)
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Shonoo
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| | Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 1:56 pm: |
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Admin :
As I was reading your post I thought about breaking it up by threads related to one word or set of words. But when I went through the postings it seems very difficult task because all the threads intertwine. It may be easier to group them alphabetically, by the word being discussed. It will also be easier to search for later on.
While I am at it, this is also a LONG overdue THANKS for a wonderful opportunity. Brightens my work day to visit this site. Gracias, Merci, Danke, Shukriya, Grazi............
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Mahavirk
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| | Thursday, December 03, 1998 - 3:10 pm: |
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Admin:
Thabks for providing such a nice opportunity for "shabdawede" junta like me.
mala wATate hi vargawAri don stages madhe keli tar bare hoil.
First stage madhe shabdA.nchya prakArawaroon DhobaL manAne chAr gaT karu ya (e.g sankrutodbhav / tatsam/deshi / parabhAshi)
Secon stage madhe pratyek gaTat alphabetically order madhe shabda Thevu ya.
Howz it???
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